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    Quote Originally Posted by Levellers View Post
    It’s funny that the two unionist leaders – Frazer the taser and wee Jeffrey – who continually moan about the death of their terrorist relatives didn’t have the courage to enrol themselves.
    Jeffrey Donaldson was a corporal in the UDR. Willie, I believe, was in the TA.

    It's also as stupid a point calling the sovereign army of a democratic country "terrorist" as it is saying that in order to criticise you had to be a member of the army.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theloner View Post
    Daniel O'Donnell was in the UDR.
    Was the idea to play his songs at high volume and hope the IRA would come out with their hands up, claiming cruel and unusual punishment at the Hague ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by theloner View Post
    Daniel O'Donnell was in the UDR.
    How did they get a uniform to fit him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by theloner View Post
    It will be interesting to find out who could have leaked the information about the private family matter to Robbo and co.

    Who was the solicitor who drafted the deceased's will? None other than *Drum roll*......

    The DUP's Arlene Foster.
    Could have been anyone, neighbours, purchaser, estate agent, purchaser's solicitor. A tad on the defamatory side to accuse someone who hasn't practiced as a solicitor for sometime and who when practicing as a solicitor wasn't even based in Fermanagh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by former wesleyan View Post
    DUPers in the UDR !! Leave off. DUPers are the white stuff in chickenshyt. In many rural areas the UDR were straight unionists.
    Agree with you there from my experience growing up in Fermanagh, DUP were minority party and still are, albeit having gained ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devonish View Post
    Could have been anyone, neighbours, purchaser, estate agent, purchaser's solicitor. A tad on the defamatory side to accuse someone who hasn't practiced as a solicitor for sometime and who when practicing as a solicitor wasn't even based in Fermanagh.
    Sunny Jim said that his brother-in-law had owned a farm in Fermanagh and had made a will several years ago with the then practising local solicitor, Arlene Foster in today's newsletter.
    Allister hits back at Robinson over land allegations - Belfast Newsletter
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    Quote Originally Posted by theloner View Post
    Extraordinary scenes in Stormont yesterday when the DUP went for the jugular of the TUV, and in particular of Jim Allister. In a move that is the height of immaturity, the first minister accused Jim Allister of secretly selling land to republicans in Fermanagh, to benefit his own family. Controversial stuff.

    It was a lie, but didn't stop the smug, mostly male, middle-class DUPers howling and having a laugh over such an insensitive jibe, and lie to boot. What makes the first minister's comments so insensitive is the fact, the lie was based around the death of one of Jim Allister's relatives. It makes one wonder, where is the base of debate in the northern assembly? Indeed, a sad Allister said after:

    "I regret that my wife and her family have been dragged into the politicking of the First Minister''.

    On p.ie there is a lot of 'playing the man', yesterday the DUP did exactly that and even SF came to the defence of firebrand loyalist, Jim Allister, with Sinn Féin MLA for Fermanagh-South Tyrone Sean Lynch saying:

    "Such comments were wholly unacceptable for the first minster to make''. I hope Jim buys him a pint.

    The facts around this are very simple and clear, Allister's wife was one of six beneficiaries of a will, following the death of her brother in Co Fermanagh last year. Making base jokes around the death of a fellow assembly member's brother-in-law is wholly unacceptable in my eyes. Insensitive and bizarre, considering the party this attack emanated from are so-called 'Men of God'.

    The reason Robinson made a joke surrounding the will of Allister's relative is because of the difficult question put to him by the TUV, it was of course surrounding the DUP's spectacular U-turn in regards to the Long Kesh site. It obviously hit a nerve with the DUP, who instead of being confident and arguing their policies and decision, 'played the man' and not the ball. The snapping of Robbo also provides an insight into the massive tensions within unionism and lack of leadership within the DUP. Letters from America don't equate leadership.

    Here is Allister's legitimate question that provoked the childish Robinson response:

    "Can the First Minister gave an assurance particularly to innocent victims who were greatly relieved by his u-turn on the implementation of the Maze project that that stance will not be traded either in the Haass talks or anywhere else?"

    Allister responded to the speaker asking:

    "What protection exists for members so they are not subjected to such false allegations?"

    So upset was Allister he dashed to Robbo's office in Stormont demanding he withdraws the comments, he has yet to do so.

    Robinson and Allister clash at Stormont - UTV Live News

    BBC News - Peter Robinson and Jim Allister row over land remarks

    Heated exchanges in Stormont over land remarks - RTÉ News
    Well Robbo isn't the best person to be firing low blows at anyone.

    The amount of shyte that lad and his missus have stirred over the last few years should have been rolled into a ball and fired straight back at him. Sure Robbo and the trouble and strife know a good lot about dodgy land deals. Oh and throw in a bit of young fella rumpy pumpy!

    He would shut up and sit down fairly sharpish!
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    Quote Originally Posted by vivabrigada View Post
    Sunny Jim said that his brother-in-law had owned a farm in Fermanagh and had made a will several years ago with the then practising local solicitor, Arlene Foster in today's newsletter.
    Allister hits back at Robinson over land allegations - Belfast Newsletter
    Apologies to Loner, I thought that he was speculating and didn't realise his post was based on comments By Allister.
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    Was the land sold to P. O'Neill himself or to a catholic neighbour who may or may not vote SF?
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    Quote Originally Posted by theloner View Post
    Extraordinary scenes in Stormont yesterday when the DUP went for the jugular of the TUV, and in particular of Jim Allister. In a move that is the height of immaturity, the first minister accused Jim Allister of secretly selling land to republicans in Fermanagh, to benefit his own family. Controversial stuff.

    It was a lie, but didn't stop the smug, mostly male, middle-class DUPers howling and having a laugh over such an insensitive jibe, and lie to boot. What makes the first minister's comments so insensitive is the fact, the lie was based around the death of one of Jim Allister's relatives. It makes one wonder, where is the base of debate in the northern assembly? Indeed, a sad Allister said after:

    "I regret that my wife and her family have been dragged into the politicking of the First Minister''.

    On p.ie there is a lot of 'playing the man', yesterday the DUP did exactly that and even SF came to the defence of firebrand loyalist, Jim Allister, with Sinn Féin MLA for Fermanagh-South Tyrone Sean Lynch saying:

    "Such comments were wholly unacceptable for the first minster to make''. I hope Jim buys him a pint.

    The facts around this are very simple and clear, Allister's wife was one of six beneficiaries of a will, following the death of her brother in Co Fermanagh last year. Making base jokes around the death of a fellow assembly member's brother-in-law is wholly unacceptable in my eyes. Insensitive and bizarre, considering the party this attack emanated from are so-called 'Men of God'.

    The reason Robinson made a joke surrounding the will of Allister's relative is because of the difficult question put to him by the TUV, it was of course surrounding the DUP's spectacular U-turn in regards to the Long Kesh site. It obviously hit a nerve with the DUP, who instead of being confident and arguing their policies and decision, 'played the man' and not the ball. The snapping of Robbo also provides an insight into the massive tensions within unionism and lack of leadership within the DUP. Letters from America don't equate leadership.

    Here is Allister's legitimate question that provoked the childish Robinson response:

    "Can the First Minister gave an assurance particularly to innocent victims who were greatly relieved by his u-turn on the implementation of the Maze project that that stance will not be traded either in the Haass talks or anywhere else?"

    Allister responded to the speaker asking:

    "What protection exists for members so they are not subjected to such false allegations?"

    So upset was Allister he dashed to Robbo's office in Stormont demanding he withdraws the comments, he has yet to do so.

    Robinson and Allister clash at Stormont - UTV Live News

    BBC News - Peter Robinson and Jim Allister row over land remarks

    Heated exchanges in Stormont over land remarks - RTÉ News
    At the end of the day the DUP are a bizarre and ludicrous bunch, but as long as they are supporting republicans in the implementation of the GFA and moving towards a UI we can put up with the immature nonsense.
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