loyalists psychological effect on nationalist/republicans

[raff]

You refer to comments aimed at Loyalists and then say that the attitude of anti-unionists. keep 'us' apart you appear to be insinuating that remarks made against Loyalists are made against Unionists, if you are not please clarify why you feel Anti- Loyalist is the same as Anti- Unionist.

No it keeps unionists and republicans apart

I know that is what you meant, but my questions are:

1) Why should what Nationalists or Republicans think of Loyalists bother the Unionists?

2).Is there a difference between a Loyalist and a Unionist? I often hear Unionist MLA's and the like denounce Loyalist murderers and dealers and still Unionists get votes from Unionist people!

and,

3) Why then if Unionists can condemn Loyalists murderers and dealers can Republicans not?

[janepaisley]

You refer to comments aimed at Loyalists and then say that the attitude of anti-unionists. keep 'us' apart you appear to be insinuating that remarks made against Loyalists are made against Unionists, if you are not please clarify why you feel Anti- Loyalist is the same as Anti- Unionist.

No it keeps unionists and republicans apart

I know that is what you meant, but my questions are:

1) Why should what Nationalists or Republicans think of Loyalists bother the Unionists?

2).Is there a difference between a Loyalist and a Unionist? I often hear Unionist MLA's and the like denounce Loyalist murderers and dealers and still Unionists get votes from Unionist people!

and,

3) Why then if Unionists can condemn Loyalists murderers and dealers can Republicans not?

1. how do you know unionists are bothered what reps/nats think ?

2. all loyalists have to be unionist but only some unioists are loyalists.

3. both do so the question is illogical.

[Cloigeann]

weak jane, very weak

[raff]

You refer to comments aimed at Loyalists and then say that the attitude of anti-unionists. keep 'us' apart you appear to be insinuating that remarks made against Loyalists are made against Unionists, if you are not please clarify why you feel Anti- Loyalist is the same as Anti- Unionist.

No it keeps unionists and republicans apart

I know that is what you meant, but my questions are:

1) Why should what Nationalists or Republicans think of Loyalists bother the Unionists?

2).Is there a difference between a Loyalist and a Unionist? I often hear Unionist MLA's and the like denounce Loyalist murderers and dealers and still Unionists get votes from Unionist people!

and,

3) Why then if Unionists can condemn Loyalists murderers and dealers can Republicans not?

1. how do you know unionists are bothered what reps/nats think ?

2. all loyalists have to be unionist but only some unioists are loyalists.

3. both do so the question is illogical.

1) I take it by your name, your avatar and your posts you are of Unionist persuasion and I refer you to the comment YOU made near the start of this thread.

2) Good point, but at the same token comments made against Loyalists are not necessarily made against Unionists.

3) Then why is offence taken when a Republican makes a disparaging remark about Loyalists but it nothing is said when Unionists do? For the offence I again refer you to your post near the start of teh thread. (Answer without being obtuse please).

[janepaisley]

On this forum and others you see almost CONSTANTLY the republicans bringing up the brits and what they done and who they killed etc they really give the impression the brits campaign has really dug so much into their psyche and culture it is their ultimate bogeyman for almost anything

Even on super republican scum sites like i-r-a.th the great bulk of their paranoid, racist and anti-prod bigotry is about the brits and how the brits are responsible for every single thing that goes against them.

All I can see is it must be crap to be a republican and also must be a handy tool to scare their kids with the brits into behaving a little better Wink

The loyalists certainly has had a greater effect on the nationalist/republicans community as a whole than any nationalist could do to the loyalists or could EVER do in this day and age.

You see your community has been every bit as f ucked over as the Nationalist community yet you still grovel and scrape like the loyal folk that you are.

grovel and scrape ??? Explain ?

[Cloigeann]

Forgivvvvvvve me jannnnnnnneeeee!!!!!!

[janepaisley]

You refer to comments aimed at Loyalists and then say that the attitude of anti-unionists. keep 'us' apart you appear to be insinuating that remarks made against Loyalists are made against Unionists, if you are not please clarify why you feel Anti- Loyalist is the same as Anti- Unionist.

No it keeps unionists and republicans apart

I know that is what you meant, but my questions are:

1) Why should what Nationalists or Republicans think of Loyalists bother the Unionists?

2).Is there a difference between a Loyalist and a Unionist? I often hear Unionist MLA's and the like denounce Loyalist murderers and dealers and still Unionists get votes from Unionist people!

and,

3) Why then if Unionists can condemn Loyalists murderers and dealers can Republicans not?

1. how do you know unionists are bothered what reps/nats think ?

2. all loyalists have to be unionist but only some unioists are loyalists.

3. both do so the question is illogical.

1) I take it by your name, your avatar and your posts you are of Unionist persuasion and I refer you to the comment YOU made near the start of this thread.

2) Good point, but at the same token comments made against Loyalists are not necessarily made against Unionists.

3) Then why is offence taken when a Republican makes a disparaging remark about Loyalists but it nothing is said when Unionists do? For the offence I again refer you to your post near the start of teh thread. (Answer without being obtuse please).

can you quote me from this post at the start so i can try to make sence of what your trying to say ?

[raff]

well i'm happy to see unionist still being regularily slated because it proves that we are a long long way off from even considering a united ireland what with the attitude of anti-unionists.

so keep it up - it keeps us apart

Would that do? You are happy to see unionist still being regularly slated yet the only comment was about Loyalists.

[stevey2005]

On this forum and others you see almost CONSTANTLY the republicans bringing up the brits and what they done and who they killed etc they really give the impression the brits campaign has really dug so much into their psyche and culture it is their ultimate bogeyman for almost anything

Even on super republican scum sites like i-r-a.th the great bulk of their paranoid, racist and anti-prod bigotry is about the brits and how the brits are responsible for every single thing that goes against them.

All I can see is it must be crap to be a republican and also must be a handy tool to scare their kids with the brits into behaving a little better Wink

The loyalists certainly has had a greater effect on the nationalist/republicans community as a whole than any nationalist could do to the loyalists or could EVER do in this day and age.

touche

mind you this is an irish site so it's unsurprising that unionists/loyalists get regualrly slated..

what else do u expect?

I dont even know what there is a Northern Ireland section for?? Your crossing jurisdictions

Northern Ireland is nothing to do with politics.ie!!!

[traynod]

On this forum and others you see almost CONSTANTLY the republicans bringing up the brits and what they done and who they killed etc they really give the impression the brits campaign has really dug so much into their psyche and culture it is their ultimate bogeyman for almost anything

Even on super republican scum sites like i-r-a.th the great bulk of their paranoid, racist and anti-prod bigotry is about the brits and how the brits are responsible for every single thing that goes against them.

All I can see is it must be crap to be a republican and also must be a handy tool to scare their kids with the brits into behaving a little better Wink

The loyalists certainly has had a greater effect on the nationalist/republicans community as a whole than any nationalist could do to the loyalists or could EVER do in this day and age.

touche

mind you this is an irish site so it's unsurprising that unionists/loyalists get regualrly slated..

what else do u expect?

I dont even know what there is a Northern Ireland section for?? Your crossing jurisdictions

Northern Ireland is nothing to do with politics.ie!!!

well then why are northern irish people like yourself contributing to this thread? go off to a British alternative like Calton, or any other that relates to your jurisdiction for that matter.