What we got was British Justice

[Clenlish]

More world war BS, i dunno

All those who died did so for twats like you to take their place and spout the unmitigated rubbush you, and your ilk, come out with.

[pogo]

More world war BS, i dunno

It was you who wanted to shift the goalposts of Operation Banner back from 1969 to 1922.

[st333ve]

Well thats ok then isnt it, them good soldiers were quite nice only killing hundreds of people instead of thousands, wernt they?
After all us catholics must have deserved it!

Whats your opinion on unionists refering to this low intensity conflict as genocide then?

[pogo]

300 deaths in the longest ever military campaign by the British Army. 57,470 British casualties alone on the first Day of the Battle of the Somme. Over 1,100,00 died on all side in the Somme. Do the comparisons yourself.

Dont you think thats a slightly different topic?

How about this, Cromwell wiped out 1/3- 1/2 of Irelands population and sold many more to the slave trade.
You will find a nice statue of him outside westminster.

The Somme wasnt the same army or era, and is completely unrelated.

I see. Cromwell is somehow related to Operation Banner but the Somme isn't.

[st333ve]

More world war BS, i dunno

All those who died did so for twats like you to take their place and spout the unmitigated rubbush you, and your ilk, come out with.

You might consider the extremely brutal murder and oppression of Ireland as "rubbush" but i think its a lot more relevent to the murdering british troops that are still here and doing the same in Iraq.


I dont care about the world war, it didnt happen in Ireland,theyve never helped me and this thread isnt about France!

(you cant even fit all their bloody conquests on their flag)

[vito corleone]

[quote=pogo]

If you think the British army only killed 300 people during the Troubles then you're more deluded than RTE and the BBC put together. The British controlled loyalist death squads. The true scale of their murderous activities will never be known, but there's precious little that the UDA and UVF did that wasn't either facilitated or condoned by the British government through its military agents in the North. And that, my friend, is the awful truth that even now some people refuse to acknowledge.

Perhaps they don't acknowledge it because it isn't true.

It isn't true that British agents colluded with loyalist killers. Don't take my word for it, ask that dyed-in-the-wool republican Lord Stevens.

Did Lord Stevens state what you stated then, that there's precious little that the UDA and UVF did that wasn't facilitated by the British government.

Perhaps you could find a link to where he stated this.[/quoternoi80d]

Your attempt to construct a straw man argument is as obvious as it is pathetic. I never suggested that Stevens made such a sweeping assertion. Stevens III is important because it represented the British establishment acknowledging for the first time what some of us knew all along - that collusion existed, despite the denials of three-monkeys apologists like you. The line between loyalist killer gangs and the various shadowy british intelligence groups like MRF and FRU wasn't just a hazy one - to all intents and purposes it never existed. I suggest you consult the Derry-based Pat Finucane Centre website for in-depth analysis of collusion cases.

[st333ve]

300 deaths in the longest ever military campaign by the British Army. 57,470 British casualties alone on the first Day of the Battle of the Somme. Over 1,100,00 died on all side in the Somme. Do the comparisons yourself.

Dont you think thats a slightly different topic?

How about this, Cromwell wiped out 1/3- 1/2 of Irelands population and sold many more to the slave trade.
You will find a nice statue of him outside westminster.

The Somme wasnt the same army or era, and is completely unrelated.

I see. Cromwell is somehow related to Operation Banner but the Somme isn't.

I dont think you got what my post was about, i was using Cromwell as an an example to show you how irrelevent your previous post was, i thought this was obvious

[inchicore_republican]

Pongo wrote

Perhaps they don't acknowledge it because it isn't true.

You are a fool.

[Cloigeann]

Pongo wrote

Perhaps they don't acknowledge it because it isn't true.

You are a fool.

You lot are bigger ones for replying and feeding it (him) material.

[Cloigeann]

Its a disgrace that you have to look at foreign news reports to get a realistic glimps at the past.

The contrast between RTE's coverage of the subject and outside news coverage is quite startling.

It is the media of a British created state do you expect any different?