What we got was British Justice

[pogo]

How many people have the Russians killed in the 20th century, and how many have the British killed, and why do you believe the British to be more 'proud' of the numbers they have killed?

How many British empire conquests are the british ashamed of?
Apparently everyone deserved it.

Should virtually all Western European people be ashamed, because virtually all Western European nations had Empires?

As did non-European nations such as Japan and Turkey.

Should Irish people be ashamed as they were just as involved in Empire as the English, the Scots and the Welsh?

[pogo]

Really? you asked for an example.
I gave you one.

Now youve invented a new question, and you want to play "oh but Russia did stuff too so its ok"

Thing is Russia didnt do it to Ireland.

I asked you to tell me why the British are more proud of killing than the Russians, not give me an example of a war Britain was involved in but Russia wasn't.

[BuachaillBeo]

Republic of Ireland. (REAL PLAYER)

http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0731/north_ ... 1,null,230

RTE is a unionist grovelling, historical airbrushing disgrace.
Web coverage complete with glorifying images of the british army.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0731/north.html

it's a disgrace how rte report.... complete anti-republican bias. sickening

[Aindriu]

We are the poorest region of the UK, the loyalist workers strike destroyed what little economy there was

Actually it was the IRA bombing campaign that did that.

[sandar]

the russians aqre quite proud of their work in chechneya

[Jozer]

The constant attempts by some posters here to portrey the British as somehow much worse than any other imperialists is truly mind-boggling.

A recent thread included a contribution to the effect that the Spanish know what a brute Raleigh was, and that he was theiving 'their' gold.

When the English attacked Spain, they were attacking another imperialist nation that had the same military technology as them, and a lot more of it. Where do you think that gold came from?

The chief difference between the Britrish & other European imperialists is that the long-term effect of British imperialism was Liberal Democracy.

[fisk]

300 deaths in the longest ever military campaign by the British Army. 57,470 British casualties alone on the first Day of the Battle of the Somme. Over 1,100,00 died on all side in the Somme. Do the comparisons yourself.

I like to compare it with the Warsaw uprising.

Warsaw had a similar population to present day N.I..

Over some 40 days half a million were killed, 1/3 of the population, more every single day than in the entire 30 years of Operation Banner.

German tactics included tying women to the fronts of tanks to act as human shields.

Warsaw was 93% destroyed by the end of the war.

All in all, apart from in the imagination of fantasists, Operation Banner was a pretty insignificant conflict.

TRY TELLING PEOPLE WHO LOST LOVED ONES IT WAS INSIGNIFICANT

IDIOT

[the hatchetman]

Missing from all the mainstream media coverage and hype about the end of the British Army’s frontline role in the six counties was the unsurprising absence of a few glaring statistics:

• The British Army killed approximately 300 people during their so-called Operation Banner.
• The British Army was responsible for 11% of all killings during the recent conflict-their victims being almost exclusively from the Catholic community.
• Only 4 British soldiers were ever convicted of the charge of murder in any of these killings.
• The sentences served by these 4 British soldiers ranged from 3-5 years, most of which was spent in ‘military custody sic.
• All 4 were subsequently re-admitted to the British Army
• 2 are currently stationed in Basra in Iraq.

I know many republican ex-POWS who never were convicted of murder. Yet a large proportion of them spent more time in Long Kesh, on an individual basis, than the total time spent in custody by these 4 soldiers combined.

Mabye if some of the West Brits on this site had lived under the reality of British misrule in the six counties their perspective may have have been a little different.

Good point.

[William]

If you think the British army only killed 300 people during the Troubles then you're more deluded than RTE and the BBC put together. The British controlled loyalist death squads. The true scale of their murderous activities will never be known, but there's precious little that the UDA and UVF did that wasn't either facilitated or condoned by the British government through its military agents in the North. And that, my friend, is the awful truth that even now some people refuse to acknowledge.

Vito, u can hardly blame the Army for all or even the majority of the loyalist killings.
If I were a working-class prod with little or no education and no job and lost friends or family to an IRA bomb attack, I think it would certainly cross my mind to go up to the Falls and get my revenge at the population who are sheltering the terrorists.