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Director of "Gasland" getting his arse handed to him.
Environmental Video Banned - YouTube!
Director of "Gasland" getting his arse handed to him.
Environmental Video Banned - YouTube!
More unionist anti environmentalism. Unionists are very similar to Republicans aren't they? US Republicans that is.
more anti unionism your posts are very similar aren't they?
Nec Aspera Terrent... má meas a bheith agat mo chultúr, beidh meas a bheith agam do chultúr.
Indeed ,when lies are exposed ,revert to name calling,SF rule number 23 .
Some facts about fracking: -
The “jobs” figures are the usual un-specific PR bull************************ to boost these cowboys’ share prices. I work in an engineering / projects company. We build large scale construction projects. Once the frack holes are dug, you’ll need a couple of people to monitor a few screens; maybe employ a night watchman and that’s about it. Long term jobs; god look to your wit; WISE UP! You’ll lose far more in tourism jobs and revenue than you’ll ever create with this hyped-up rubbish. Currently, stressed-out city types come to Fermanagh’s Lakelands to spend money and to chill out. I work with these kind of people and the single biggest draw for them is Fermanagh’s unspoilt environment. They don’t come for 5 star hotels, fancy nightclubs etc. They have better at home. What they don’t have is a clean, quiet, beautiful environment. That’s what they’re prepared to pay to experience. They can’t get that at home. Those of you who are lucky enough to live in such an area clearly don’t appreciate it and have a very poor idea of its real monetary and amenity value if you are prepared to wreck it forever for the sake of 5 or 6 years gas revenues into the pockets of a couple of foreign chancers. Maybe you can explain why discerning tourists will be interested to come to breath in polluted air, drink polluted water, listen to hundreds of trucks coming and going, catch radioactive fish (if there’s any left) and take in the sight of upwards of 3000 oil derricks scarring the landscape every 2 miles? These people are well off and they’ll vote with their feet. This is tourism suicide. Bye bye tourism Fermanagh.
- Fracking has been carried out for many years; but mainly for conventional “pooled” fields where the fracking and extraction can be controlled. In dispersed shale fracking, they go down and then SIDEWAYS underground for up to a mile and then blast out a sludge comprising water mixed with hundreds of thousands of tons of toxic chemicals – over 500 of them – in all directions. In the US, methane gas and propants have been found 7 miles away from where they were introduced. The shale fracking process is designed to be an underground wrecking ball. When carried out to that scale so far underground, you don’t have to be an engineering genius to work out that it’s not technically possible to control underground secondary contamination in the way that the frackers PR stooges will tell you. If fracking was confined to a single fracture of deep shale, that action might be relatively OK. However, when multiple “fracks” are done in multiple, adjacent wells, the risk of contaminating drinking water becomes a near-certainty. At that point, if you’re living in or near the frack zone, you’d better pray you’re just lucky.
- Fracking companies will tell you about how clean the gas is. Yes, in the sense that it burns cleaner than coal. However, in terms of extraction emissions and environmental damage, the a-z process is dirtier than coal and much more dangerous.
- The fracking companies in the US have secured important exemptions from clean air and clean water legislation, pushed through by oil-man Dick Cheney. Currently, they are not required to disclose what’s in the chemicals they pump into the ground. If the process is so clean, what are they hiding?
- One of the reasons fracking companies make money is that they operate to very low standards. They are not required to put up any bank security to guarantee clean up works after they’ve left. Typically, the clean-up work, to the extent that it even can be done, considering the scale of the destruction and the generally irreversible nature of it, is picked up by what’s left of the local communities. In the US, after they contaminated people’s water supplies, they sent round a few water trucks for a few weeks and then stopped coming. Once the media moved on, the locals were on their own.- The volume of fluid in a hydrofrack can exceed three million gallons, or almost 24 million pounds of fluid, about the same weight as 7,500 family cars. The fracking fluid contains chemicals that would be illegal to use in warfare under the rules of the Geneva Convention. This all adds up to a massive explosion of a ‘dirty bomb’ underground.
- Shale gas fields have poor yields. Unlike pooled resources where reserves can be calculated with some accuracy and where output remains stable before tailing off; shale gas output tends to be peaky – a big rush of gas at first followed by a rapid dropping off. After a few years, it’ll all be gone; the cowboys will be rich and Fermanagh’s gullible locals will be living with the fallout.
- Air quality also can suffer: “benzene was present at levels as much as 55 times higher than allowed by the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality (TCEQ). Similarly, xylene and carbon disulfide (neurotoxicants), along with naphthalene (a blood poison) and pyridines (potential carcinogens) all exceeded legal limits, as much as 384 times levels deemed safe.
- A recent report from Manchester University concludes that "There is a clear risk of contamination of groundwater from shale gas extraction.” Google: “ Tyndall report fracking ”
- Finally, read the story of how a fracking company polluted a Vietnam veteran’s water supply and his health – google: “ propublica vietnam veteran fracking “
- We should look at nuclear and we should get serious about renewables. Not this rubbish.
Well said, bogman.
Ren last night you were singing the wonders of technological progress and saying basically that it was the only important thing, now you are posing as an enviromentalist; if Gregory Campbell gave a speech on the evils of hitting your head with a hammer would you start hitting your head with a hammer?
For your information C S Lewis the most famous Ulster Unionist of the 20 th century was promoting ecology long before it became fashionable.
Unionism is united around one thing; keeping the border, but even than there are some who like to see a united Ireland as long as it was in the UK.
It would be pretty sad to base your views on opposing a tiny group of people in the far west of Europe. You realize that there are more Brummies in the world than Ulster Unionists in Ulster?
Excuse me for a moment James, but what the hell are you blithering on about?! Four paragraphs that are completely unrelated to each other. You're nearly as bad as that other fool, frosty.
Ren never has a consistent position on anything - he is a hypocrite. He comes on here most days spouting waves of bigoted hatred and vitrol, usually nothing more than vicious name-calling. Then when it suits his argument he will then come and tell us that he is commenting on issues in another country because "he is interested in learning".
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