Sinn Féin sport minister welcomes new Ravenhill Stadium

[DT123]

1. So those large amounts of Rugby fans whom are unionist and have a british who follow Ulster and own and fly the yellow 9 county Ulster flags while following Ulster Rugby are flying flags that don't even represent their own identity??
Come on now

There are a handfull(3 or 4 at most) of the yellow Ulster flags flown at Ravenhill,by a handfull of people trying to make some kind of political point.The flag means nothing to any "unionist" rugby supporter and indeed has many republican overtones,due to the fact that untill a few turned up at Ravenhill,they were only ever seen at Republican parades and commemorations.

2. British symbolism?
The IRFU is a british symbol ,as a member of the 4 Home Unions alongside England,Scotland and Wales
Is being part the original 4 Home unions not a symbol of "britishness" ?
Being part of the British and Irish Lions concept certainly isn't a symbol of britishness either.

Why exactly do you think the IRFU fly the 9 county Provincial flag alongside the IRFU flag and Tricolour at home matches???
Do you think it is for those rugby strongholds from Cavan,Monaghan and Donegal or perhaps those from places Ballymena and Ballynahinch who follow the Irish rugby team everywhere?
The reality is,the 9 county provincial flag represents all those within the province of Ulster,including those with a british identity,whom have as much right to claim the 9 county provincial flag as being representative of their cultural background as any of the rest of us do.

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The IRFU,carrying out the yellow flag ,alongside the Tri-Colour ,for Ireland matches ,only adds insult to injury.If they need to use the Tri Colour to represent the Republic,then either the Union flag or Ulster Banner should be used to represent Northern Ireland.(Why not just use the IRFU flag?)

[Dr Spock]

I just stumbled upon this thread and found it absolutely fascinating. Mathematics is my thing so I would appreciate if I could get some feedback on whether I have got my logic right:

1. The Ireland rugby team represents the entire island of Ireland
2. Let's call the island of Ireland the "set"
3. There is no official flag that represents the entire "set"
4. The "set" consists of two subsets: Republic of Ireland and; Northern Ireland
5. The Republic of Ireland "set" is officially represented by the Tricolour
6. The Northern Ireland "set" is officially represented by the flag normally referred to as the Union Jack (and a dated Ulster (white) flag)
7. The "set" also consists of four provincial subsets: Ulster, Connaught, Leinster, Munster
8. Each of the provincial subsets has their own flags
9. Northern Ireland is also a subset of the Ulster province subset. So it is a sub-subset and a subset
10. When the "set" plays rugby it is acceptable to wave the the ROI, Ulster (yellow), Connaught, Leinster and Munster subset flags. When the "set" plays it is not acceptable to wave an Ulster (white) subset flags or a Union Jack subset flag.

So - reasonable arguments might be:

A. The Union Jack subset flag may be waved too when the "set" plays.
B. The Union Jack subset flag may be waved too when the "set" plays but not the dated Ulster (white) one
C. No subset flags should be waved, rather a flag should be waved that represents the island of Ireland
D. It is OK to wave an Ulster (white) flag when the Ulster province plays as it represents a subset of the Ulster province. Just like a Tricolour subset flag is acceptable when the island of Ireland set plays

Or:

E. It would appear that it is as reasonable/unreasonable to wave a Union Jack or Ulster (white) flag at an Ulster province game as it is to wave a Tricolour at an Irish game.

Have I got this right? When correcting please direct your logic to the particular bullet that is materially incorrect.

Thanks,

Dr Spock

[eskrimador]

Yet again, further evidence of the PSNI's inability to crack down on drugs

[Dr Spock]

Yet again, further evidence of the PSNI's inability to crack down on drugs

LOL. Go on, read it and tackle the logic.

[Ren84]

I just stumbled upon this thread and found it absolutely fascinating. Mathematics is my thing so I would appreciate if I could get some feedback on whether I have got my logic right:

1. The Ireland rugby team represents the entire island of Ireland
2. Let's call the island of Ireland the "set"
3. There is no official flag that represents the entire "set"
4. The "set" consists of two subsets: Republic of Ireland and; Northern Ireland
5. The Republic of Ireland "set" is officially represented by the Tricolour
6. The Northern Ireland "set" is officially represented by the flag normally referred to as the Union Jack (and a dated Ulster (white) flag)
7. The "set" also consists of four provincial subsets: Ulster, Connaught, Leinster, Munster
8. Each of the provincial subsets has their own flags
9. Northern Ireland is also a subset of the Ulster province subset. So it is a sub-subset and a subset
10. When the "set" plays rugby it is acceptable to wave the the ROI, Ulster (yellow), Connaught, Leinster and Munster subset flags. When the "set" plays it is not acceptable to wave an Ulster (white) subset flags or a Union Jack subset flag.

So - reasonable arguments might be:

A. The Union Jack subset flag may be waved too when the "set" plays.
B. The Union Jack subset flag may be waved too when the "set" plays but not the dated Ulster (white) one
C. No subset flags should be waved, rather a flag should be waved that represents the island of Ireland
D. It is OK to wave an Ulster (white) flag when the Ulster province plays as it represents a subset of the Ulster province. Just like a Tricolour subset flag is acceptable when the island of Ireland set plays

Or:

E. It would appear that it is as reasonable/unreasonable to wave a Union Jack or Ulster (white) flag at an Ulster province game as it is to wave a Tricolour at an Irish game.

Have I got this right? When correcting please direct your logic to the particular bullet that is materially incorrect.

Thanks,

Dr Spock

Applying Vulcan logic to Irish rugby?????

[InsideImDancing]

i was looking to see what the official status of the ulster banner is (it was officially retired along with stormont in 1972). I found this.

make the ulster banner the official flag - e-petitions

seems he's destined to plough a lonely furrow, bless him!

lmfao.

[InsideImDancing]

The "Ulster " rugby team is now a professional sports team based in Northern Ireland.There are nowadays many foreign stars playing for the team.The Ulster Branch does indeed administer rugby in all 9 counties ,however only a tiny handful of players have ever played for the team from Monaghan ,cavan and Donegal.

The Ulster team ,is the de facto Northern Ireland rugby team and up untill a couple of years ago,the Yellow flag was never seen at matches.Many Unionist people see the Yellow flag ,as a Republican symbol and would be happier not to see it at Ravenhill.However,they are "rugby" fans and consequently would never say boo to a goose.

Your basically admitting that you don't want a taig about the Ulster rugby team, the thought of it seems to hurt you, wtf??

[Mickeymac]

Your basically admitting that you don't want a taig about the Ulster rugby team, the thought of it seems to hurt you, wtf??

Unionists of all ilk don't want a taig anywhere, the threat from the Brits re 'joint authority' rule forced them to accept SF/Stoops in government at Stormont, as for sports, they don't really want taig at rave hill/windsor park either.

[Dr Spock]

Unionists of all ilk don't want a taig anywhere, the threat from the Brits re 'joint authority' rule forced them to accept SF/Stoops in government at Stormont, as for sports, they don't really want taig at rave hill/windsor park either.

So where is the crack in the logic?

1. The Ireland rugby team represents the entire island of Ireland
2. Let's call the island of Ireland the "set"
3. There is no official flag that represents the entire "set"
4. The "set" consists of two subsets: Republic of Ireland and; Northern Ireland
5. The Republic of Ireland "set" is officially represented by the Tricolour
6. The Northern Ireland "set" is officially represented by the flag normally referred to as the Union Jack (and a dated Ulster (white) flag)
7. The "set" also consists of four provincial subsets: Ulster, Connaught, Leinster, Munster
8. Each of the provincial subsets has their own flags
9. Northern Ireland is also a subset of the Ulster province subset. So it is a sub-subset and a subset
10. When the "set" plays rugby it is acceptable to wave the the ROI, Ulster (yellow), Connaught, Leinster and Munster subset flags. When the "set" plays it is not acceptable to wave an Ulster (white) subset flags or a Union Jack subset flag.

So - reasonable arguments might be:

A. The Union Jack subset flag may be waved too when the "set" plays.
B. The Union Jack subset flag may be waved too when the "set" plays but not the dated Ulster (white) one
C. No subset flags should be waved, rather a flag should be waved that represents the island of Ireland
D. It is OK to wave an Ulster (white) flag when the Ulster province plays as it represents a subset of the Ulster province. Just like a Tricolour subset flag is acceptable when the island of Ireland set plays

Or:

E. It would appear that it is as reasonable/unreasonable to wave a Union Jack or Ulster (white) flag at an Ulster province game as it is to wave a Tricolour at an Irish game.

[redstar58]

Unionists of all ilk don't want a taig anywhere, the threat from the Brits re 'joint authority' rule forced them to accept SF/Stoops in government at Stormont, as for sports, they don't really want taig at rave hill/windsor park either.

Jesus, where are you getting this stuff from?
Your actually saying that all unionists want nothing to do with Catholics? What about Catholics who vote the UUP, where do they fit into your theory?