Derry Bid for Fleadh lost, due to dissident republican bombings

[Cruimh]

I know a fair few Shinners

So do I - oddly enough one of them doesn't have an Irish passport - I must tell her she isn't Irish -
according to Anglo-Ren

[SeamusNapoleon]

Will the The Apprentice Boys Memorial Hall be open to the fleadh? They have a bar there. I can't see too many southerners being entirely easy about having a drink there though.

Why not, in your own opinion?

[damon]

Why not, in your own opinion?

Because it may well be seen as a ''Loyalist'' place and people from the Republic who have never even been to Northern Ireland before might have reservations about going into such a place.
I have reservations about even going into my local Orange Hall, because I'm not from Northern Ireland.
I have been in that one in Derry, but didn't really interact with anyone as it was too busy - as it was the Apprentice Boys day in August.
Being an obvious ''stranger'' and outsider isn't always the most comfortable of feelings.

[SeamusNapoleon]

Because it may well be seen as a ''Loyalist'' place and people from the Republic who have never even been to Northern Ireland before might have reservations about going into such a place.
I have reservations about even going into my local Orange Hall, because I'm not from Northern Ireland.
I have been in that one in Derry, but didn't really interact with anyone as it was too busy - as it was the Apprentice Boys day in August.
Being an obvious ''stranger'' and outsider isn't always the most comfortable of feelings.

Aye. Fair enough.
I dropped into the museum there in the AB building in Derry once. Not a bad museum, and the fella who dealt with me was nice.

[Gracchus]

Never mind about tomas mor he hates all things irish culture, but if you want to talk about SF he will first in line.

Was begining to see a trend is right.

[The Herren]

Because it may well be seen as a ''Loyalist'' place and people from the Republic who have never even been to Northern Ireland before might have reservations about going into such a place.
I have reservations about even going into my local Orange Hall, because I'm not from Northern Ireland.
I have been in that one in Derry, but didn't really interact with anyone as it was too busy - as it was the Apprentice Boys day in August.
Being an obvious ''stranger'' and outsider isn't always the most comfortable of feelings.

I know, that is why people are often wrong when they expect there is an automatic affinity between Northern and Southern nationalists/ catholics, who might meet in similar circumstances.

[Mickeymac]

I know, that is why people are often wrong when they expect there is an automatic affinity between Northern and Southern nationalists/ catholics, who might meet in similar circumstances.

Damon obviously discovered some discomfort, just a pity he won't elaborate.

[damon]

Damon obviously discovered some discomfort, just a pity he won't elaborate.

Maybe I'm just a bit timid, but you'd have to be a bit stupid to think you can go wandering about everywhere and everyone is aways friendly.
I know as much from coming from London. I don't go pitching up in places that I don't know that well at any hour of the day.
I remember reading about the guy from Dublin who went into a Shankill Road bar about 20 years ago thinking it was OK just to wander in and have a drink. He was taken out the back and shot, dumped in a wheely bin and left for dead. He survived though. I think about that sometimes when I go up Shankill Road. I've been in a couple of the pubs there, but I'm really not too keen to stick around too long.
The same guys who shot the guy from Dublin might be in there.
I doubt that large numbers of people from the Republic of Ireland will be going to the fleadh, apart from people from Donegal who have been there before and know the city. Not in the numbers they go to Cavan anyway.
It will be a smaller, much more low key event I would guess. And would you want to spend more than one day in Derry anyway?
After you've walked around the walls and been to a pub for one event, you may well want to push off home.

But I obviously don't know Derry very well. If anyone knows it better and could explain how you could spend more time there (a family with young children for example) please do.
Even the new Peace Bridge actually goes nowhere where any tourist might want to go. Walk out to the middle, and walk back. As the other end just ends up in the middle of nowhere.
Also, it was a bit wild there one night I was there going out for a drink and listening to some music in Waterloo Street. Although that was many years ago when there were soldiers still driving about pointing their guns at people. So it might have mellowed out somewhat since then.

[Mickeymac]

Maybe I'm just a bit timid, but you'd have to be a bit stupid to think you can go wandering about everywhere and everyone is aways friendly.
I know as much from coming from London. I don't go pitching up in places that I don't know that well at any hour of the day.
I remember reading about the guy from Dublin who went into a Shankill Road bar about 20 years ago thinking it was OK just to wander in and have a drink. He was taken out the back and shot, dumped in a wheely bin and left for dead. He survived though. I think about that sometimes when I go up Shankill Road. I've been in a couple of the pubs there, but I'm really not too keen to stick around too long.
The same guys who shot the guy from Dublin might be in there.
I doubt that large numbers of people from the Republic of Ireland will be going to the fleadh, apart from people from Donegal who have been there before and know the city. Not in the numbers they go to Cavan anyway.
It will be a smaller, much more low key event I would guess. And would you want to spend more than one day in Derry anyway?
After you've walked around the walls and been to a pub for one event, you may well want to push off home.

But I obviously don't know Derry very well. If anyone knows it better and could explain how you could spend more time there (a family with young children for example) please do.
Even the new Peace Bridge actually goes nowhere where any tourist might want to go. Walk out to the middle, and walk back. As the other end just ends up in the middle of nowhere.
Also, it was a bit wild there one night I was there going out for a drink and listening to some music in Waterloo Street. Although that was many years ago when there were soldiers still driving about pointing their guns at people. So it might have mellowed out somewhat since then.

Damon, I remember reading about that sectarian murder, apparently he got off the Dublin train, lost his way on foot and ultimately lost his life.