Civil Rights and Civil Wrongs

[Tigrrr]

youre makey upy nationalities and opinions on who is irish are meaningless.

lol. The Republic of Ireland is a different country to the country which includes Northern Ireland in its territory.
The Irish President is the President of the Republic of Ireland. If you don't believe in The Republic of Ireland, what would you be doing voting in its Presidential election anyway?!

Lots of people are entitled to Irish passports, they're common as muck. A guy whose Grandfather left Cork in 1910 and is only 25% Irish and has never been here, is entitled to the same passport as you or I.
I don't agree with that, but I'm not sure I necessarily agree with Northerners getting Irish passports either.

[JCSkinner]

Well, I don't agree with you having one either, so I suppose we're all square on that point.

[Outside_The_Line]

Well, I suppose the French or Americans haven't given them passports so you must be talking about voting in the Presidential elections of the Republic of Ireland.

I have never really understood why Northern Irish people got Irish passports, I suppose voting wouldn't be a huge leap, really.

Well there is the thing of not living in this jurisdiction.

Because we're Irish, you moron.

Skinner, you're a Brit if ever there was one.

[Tigrrr]

Well, I don't agree with you having one either, so I suppose we're all square on that point.

On what basis though?
I was born and raised and am still living in the jurisdiction. It makes sense that my local Government would be the ones issuing me a passport.
In what sense are Northern irish people Irish? or more specifically, why do they need a passport from the Republic?

[Outside_The_Line]

Well, I don't agree with you having one either, so I suppose we're all square on that point.

On what basis though?
I was born and raised and am still living in the jurisdiction. It makes sense that my local Government would be the ones issuing me a passport.
In what sense are Northern irish people Irish? or more specifically, why do they need a passport from the Republic?

So why are you Irish but someone from say South Down isn't (according to you)?

[Tigrrr]

Well I'm only Irish because it's the nearest nationality to hand. It's pretty incidental, not a divine right. I was born here, live here, meh.

Why get so worked up about being British?

What makes someone who doesn't live here, Irish?

[Outside_The_Line]

What makes someone who doesn't live here, Irish?

So Down isn't in Ireland? Jaysus your geography is awful....

[Tigrrr]

Well they're no more Irish than i am British just because I live in the British Isles. They're not from The Republic of Ireland, if that makes you happier.

Or is it just a case of 'you are whatever nationality you feel like'?

[Outside_The_Line]

Well they're no more Irish than i am British because I live in the British Isles. They're not from The Republic of Ireland, if that makes you happier.

Or is it just a case of 'you are whatever nationality you feel like'?

If Down isn't in Ireland how did they win 5 football All-Irelands? Why does the GAA's Hurling & Football championships include 32 counties of Ireland?

The Republic of Ireland does not exist at present.

[JCSkinner]

Well, I don't agree with you having one either, so I suppose we're all square on that point.

On what basis though?
I was born and raised and am still living in the jurisdiction. It makes sense that my local Government would be the ones issuing me a passport.
In what sense are Northern irish people Irish? or more specifically, why do they need a passport from the Republic?

On the basis that you're the sort of objectionable person who gives Irish people in general a bad name.
I also was born in Ireland and live and pay tax in the jurisdiction. In fact I pay tax in two jurisdictions in Ireland.
Northern Irish people are Irish in every sense you are. More so, one could argue, given that they have been forced to fight for their rights to their identity in the face, not only of occupation but also of ignorance like your own from other Irish people.
And I need an Irish passport because I'm Irish and I travel abroad. Same as everyone else who needs one.