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    United Ireland-What do you want?

    Those posters against the GFA and the powersharing model currently in place.
    Could they please outline clearly, what they want to do instead, and lets have a discussion on the implications of such a plan.

    If SF and the Irish government both shared your position, what do you think woudl happen?>
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    Re: United Ireland-What do you want?

    Quote Originally Posted by Universal_001
    Those posters against the GFA and the powersharing model currently in place.
    Could they please outline clearly, what they want to do instead, and lets have a discussion on the implications of such a plan.

    If SF and the Irish government both shared your position, what do you think woudl happen?>
    Let's have democracy on the island and an end to British Parliamentary Activity in Ireland. Let the British Government declare their longterm intentions towards Ireland.

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    Lets get everyone to give an hour of their time and dig a ditch along the border deep enough so that the North can float away and then they all do whatever they like.

    As a citizen of The Republic of Ireland my personal opinion is that I do not want or care about a united Ireland. It means nothing to me. The only thing that interests me if that no one is being murdered by SF/IRA or any of their break away groups that they use as scape goats.

    That's my personal opinion to which I am entitled to as a citizen so spare me the personal insults about being a west Brit etc if you have no policy argument to make.

    I think time has moved on for Ireland to ever be a united country. Too much water has passed under the bridge and there are more enough issues of policy still to be addressed in The Republic before wasting moeny on a united Ireland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Earl of Desmond
    Lets get everyone to give an hour of their time and dig a ditch along the border deep enough so that the North can float away and then they all do whatever they like.
    When I was about say 6 or 7..and learning about the North, would you believe that is exactly what I said. But for an Adult to say that (I assume you are), is quite sad.
    As a citizen of The Republic of Ireland my personal opinion is that I do not want or care about a united Ireland. It means nothing to me.
    Do you recognise it means something to the vast majorty of people on this island?
    That's my personal opinion to which I am entitled to as a citizen so spare me the personal insults about being a west Brit etc if you have no policy argument to make.
    West Brit isn't a personal insult.I don't usually like calling people this, but, you're a West Brit.

    I think time has moved on for Ireland to ever be a united country. Too much water has passed under the bridge and there are more enough issues of policy still to be addressed in The Republic before wasting moeny on a united Ireland.
    What a small minded man...wasting money

    What about Germany? A fair bit of time elapsed before it was re-united...
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    I don't think one can make the arguement that a United Ireland would be a huge cost to the taxpayer, if a UI happened tomorrow then yes it would be a huge cost, but we all know any UI is at least 10 years away, and we are already investing in the infrastructure and services in the North, as is the British government, and we will continue to invest in the North, and I think that by the time a serious debate on a UI is initiated, the infrastructure and services will be there and both sides of this island will be integrated enough for unification to proceed. Who knows, by then the North's economy could be outdoing that of the Republic's, anything can happen in 10 years, as has been proven in the Republic.
    I personally would like to see all parties competing to enter the next government outline their policy on the establishment of a green paper on unity. And I would like to see some indication from government that they intend on not only upholding the peace on this island, but that they progress towards unity too, and this doesn't mean casting aside unionists to take back our land, it means working with them to convince them that the way forward for both parts of this island is through a United 32 County Irish Republic, and in doing so outlining the benefits it would have for them, because lets face it, Paisley hardly represents the majority of 'normal' unionists. We'll also see parties like the DUP and UUP defend the relationship with the union and try to convince their voters to stay with the union, and also try to convince Republicans that the way forward is with the union. So its important, that the issue of unity is addressed now before it really is too late, and before both sides of this island move so far apart that unification is impossible, as I don't think we've quite reached that stage yet and unity is still a real possibilty in our lifetime.

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    Id like to see the rsf federal thing(without the rsf) I think the republic of munster would rock!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Earl of Desmond
    Lets get everyone to give an hour of their time and dig a ditch along the border deep enough so that the North can float away and then they all do whatever they like.

    As a citizen of The Republic of Ireland my personal opinion is that I do not want or care about a united Ireland. It means nothing to me. The only thing that interests me if that no one is being murdered by SF/IRA or any of their break away groups that they use as scape goats.

    That's my personal opinion to which I am entitled to as a citizen so spare me the personal insults about being a west Brit etc if you have no policy argument to make.

    I think time has moved on for Ireland to ever be a united country. Too much water has passed under the bridge and there are more enough issues of policy still to be addressed in The Republic before wasting moeny on a united Ireland.
    You are entitled to your opinion, however if you read the title of the thread it wasnt asking you about how much you hate the north bla bla, it is supposed to be a constructive thread.
    The south already dug that hole and let the north float away (politically) , thats the main reason northern ireland exists and was a large factor in the disgusting way that the north was run which led to inevitable conflict.

    The people in the north didnt just wake up one day and decide to start fighting, it is a problem left by us from the time of partition when the south watched all its troubles, the british army etc. march up north on the lie that partition was their first step to unity, so imafraid your government in the ROI is already involved in the politics of the north and will be for its entire existance wether you like it or not.

    As an irish citizen also, who lives in the north i believe we are on the verge of re-establishing republicanism in ireland and i am very hopeful for the future, especially as the troubles are behind us.

    Thankfully youre amputation of the north part of ireland idea (which was quite popular during the troubles) is one that is fading away.

    The current normalisation and cross border economics plan is doing great and will help nationalism immensly,0 the new cross border roads and infastructure that is already happening is certainly a step in the right direction.
    The huge titanic quarter with its life size sculpture of lights of the titanic being built in belfast ny a dublin company will be an iconic gesture of what all ireland co-operation can bring, and this is just one example of the merging of the 2 economies of ireland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Earl of Desmond
    Lets get everyone to give an hour of their time and dig a ditch along the border deep enough so that the North can float away and then they all do whatever they like.

    As a citizen of The Republic of Ireland my personal opinion is that I do not want or care about a united Ireland. It means nothing to me. The only thing that interests me if that no one is being murdered by SF/IRA or any of their break away groups that they use as scape goats.

    That's my personal opinion to which I am entitled to as a citizen so spare me the personal insults about being a west Brit etc if you have no policy argument to make.

    I think time has moved on for Ireland to ever be a united country. Too much water has passed under the bridge and there are more enough issues of policy still to be addressed in The Republic before wasting moeny on a united Ireland.
    Earl, I will buy you a little boat so that you can float away to wherever the tide takes you - as long as it is not anywhere near Ireland.

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    Thank God we're in Europe now and borders aren't so important anymore. I have a huge problem with nationalism. I think it's evil. It's roots are in xenophobia and racism and it causes wars. Forget about a united Ireland. We're all europeans.
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    Evil! Evil! theyre all evil, get the pitchforks out!!!!
    Been talking to Paisley lately?
    Britain brought their imperialism oppression to ireland, those who want an independence are no different from the people of india or america, i suppose their independence day is evil also?

    It is acompletely legitimate and understandable cause which makes no-one "evil" for believing in it.
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