NI society suffering 'breakdown'

[Red Stag]

I'd rather have a Unionist with extreme views like that than a Nationalist prepared to shoot people in the back of the head because of their religion.

What's worse - words or bullets??

Nationalists very rare killed because of religion. So you think somebody read the Catholic bible and then read the Prod one and got so annoyed about the prod one that they decided to go out and kill because of it?

[British Citizen]

Nationalists very rare killed because of religion. So you think somebody read the Catholic bible and then read the Prod one and got so annoyed about the prod one that they decided to go out and kill because of it?

Why did IRA hero Brendan McFarlane spray a bar on the Shankill Road with automatic gunfire (killing five innocent people) and then do likewise to a group of women and children at a taxi rank as they made their escape?

[Red Stag]

Why did IRA hero Brendan McFarlane spray a bar on the Shankill Road with automatic gunfire (killing five innocent people) and then do likewise to a group of women and children at a taxi rank as they made their escape?

Yawn.

[damon]

I'd sort it out
Kids who were showing to be failing at around 14 or 15 would be sent to special schools with a much more outdoors and practical emphasis. They would board there for part of the week - just to give them a chance to be away from negative experiences at home and show them some other sides to life.
Lots of trips to the countryside, hiking and camping and learning map reading and outdoor skills, Ray Mears style.
These schools would be non-denominational.

[British Citizen]

Nationalists very rare killed because of religion. So you think somebody read the Catholic bible and then read the Prod one and got so annoyed about the prod one that they decided to go out and kill because of it?

Why did IRA hero Brendan McFarlane spray a bar on the Shankill Road with automatic gunfire (killing five innocent people) and then do likewise to a group of women and children at a taxi rank as they made their escape?

Yawn.

Game, set and match.

[Ó Ghabhainn]

BC, you want to get into whataboutery. Shall we get out the percentages and leave it at that?

UVF gunmen laughed as they walked away from the Heights Bar in Loughinisland, assisted by the RUC. Somethin you couldn't care less about, so long as you've some other atrocity by the IRA to put against it.

This thread is about society TODAY. I disagree with St333ve that unionism is the sole problem, though I do believe that benefits and social housing are part of the problem. Another part of the problem is mistrust and segregation, which is evident in your posts BC.

[British Citizen]

This thread is about society TODAY. I disagree with St333ve that unionism is the sole problem, though I do believe that benefits and social housing are part of the problem. Another part of the problem is mistrust and segregation, which is evident in your posts BC.

The problem is that one community in Northern Ireland continue to vote in huge numbers for a party that does absolutely nothing to better their areas.

Gerry Adams has represented West Belfast almost continuously for 30 years and it is the most deprived, poverty-stricken, crime-ridden electoral area in Western Europe.

People survive on benefits, have to worry about their property being stolen or damaged, have to avoid being run over by joyriders, etc, etc while Adams flies over their heads in his personal helicopter.

Have these people no sense?

[Theobald]

Unionism is a cancer.

We produce the most highly educated people in the whole of the UK and possibly the ROI too.

We adopt economic policies designed for lower England which are a brick wall for investment.

Our people are told to be grateful for a subsidy in replace of an economy, about half the population of the north worship the border and British rule which ruins them.
It's shocking how many people believe in this mentality, even people in the south think that a benefits society is better in the north and that we're somehow lucky to have it.

Unionism is the same mentality as the bum on the dole, why work and create a life for yourself when the state can subsidy your inactivity?
Why have an economy and jobs when you can get an annual subsidy?
Same mentality.
Both mentalities teach people that they're better off with the handout.
They don't want to believe that effort and hard work and building your own life/economy is the way forward.
Someone else can pay for it and that makes you better off.

How much infastructure have we lost from partition, how much economic damage has been caused?

So so true.

We have the highest education results YoY, but the lowest wages in western europe - something is going amiss bigtime....... and people think were better off in the union?

[Ó Ghabhainn]

The problem is that one community in Northern Ireland continue to vote in huge numbers for a party that does absolutely nothing to better their areas.

Gerry Adams has represented West Belfast almost continuously for 30 years and it is the most deprived, poverty-stricken, crime-ridden electoral area in Western Europe.

People survive on benefits, have to worry about their property being stolen or damaged, have to avoid being run over by joyriders, etc, etc while Adams flies over their heads in his personal helicopter.

Have these people no sense?

There's bigger problems than people votin for Gerry Adams. Corporation tax for example. People not gettin married so they can get benefits and not have a job.

[vinoboy]

Nobody been in Limerick recently ........look most cities in both GB and ROI have these concentrations of deprivation ,they have had them for centuries.Yes, obvious connection between poverty and violence ,made worse in NI due to political enviroment , but if it wasn't that it would be drugs wars with same poor folk involved.