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    Australian TV Documentary To Claim IRA Turncoats Could Have Prevented Dutch Shootings

    The families of Stephen Melrose and Nick Spanos, two Australian lawyers murdered by the IRA in the Dutch tourist town of Roermond twenty years ago, were in Belfast last week along with a TV crew, to get some answers. They didn't get many from Gerry Adams who first refused to meet them and then told a reporter who confronted him about his IRA past to 'rack off' (in so many words).

    The IRA's European unit gunned down the two London-based Aussies as they ate dinner with their wives in a picturesque town-square. The bungling Provos mistook the two for off-duty British soldiers based in nearby Germany. Four suspects were later put on trial but acquitted.

    Channel Seven journalist Ross Coulthart, who travelled with the families, examines the shootings and learns from British intelligence operatives that they might have been prevented had Britsh Intelligence not been more concerned with protecting high-level informers within the IRA. His documentary will be screened next Sunday.

    TV show claims British knew of deadly IRA Dutch operation in advance

    Twenty Years On, A Family's Question Still Remains: Why Did The IRA Kill Our Sons?

    Hopefully the documentary will be available for viewing over the Internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by picador View Post
    The families of Stephen Melrose and Nick Spanos, two Australian lawyers murdered by the IRA in the Dutch tourist town of Roermond twenty years ago, were in Belfast last week along with a TV crew, to get some answers. They didn't get many from Gerry Adams who first refused to meet them and then told a reporter who confronted him about his IRA past to 'rack off' (in so many words).

    The IRA's European unit gunned down the two London-based Aussies as they ate dinner with their wives in a picturesque town-square. The bungling Provos mistook the two for off-duty British soldiers based in nearby Germany. Four suspects were later put on trial but acquitted.

    Channel Seven journalist Ross Coulthart, who travelled with the families, examines the shootings and learns from British intelligence operatives that they might have been prevented by informers within the IRA's European network. His documentary will be screened next Sunday.

    TV show claims British knew of deadly IRA Dutch operation in advance

    Twenty Years On, A Family's Question Still Remains: Why Did The IRA Kill Our Sons?

    Hopefully the documentary will be available for viewing over the Internet.
    Is the claim not that the British let this and other attacks go ahead in order to protect agents within the IRA's so-called 'European unit'?

    Your OP is misleading - it is not simply the IRA 'turncoats' who could have prevented the attack but the British spooks who ran them and who they told about it.

    These revelations are just more evidence of the murky, morally-bankrupt nature of the 'war' in the North - as displayed by all sides involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by picador View Post
    The families of Stephen Melrose and Nick Spanos, two Australian lawyers murdered by the IRA in the Dutch tourist town of Roermond twenty years ago, were in Belfast last week along with a TV crew, to get some answers. They didn't get many from Gerry Adams who first refused to meet them and then told a reporter who confronted him about his IRA past to 'rack off' (in so many words).
    So the "Brits" were responsible for Kingmills yesterday, and it's the Dutch murders today, sigh, perhaps the best way of preventing these murders would have been for the IRA to simply NOT MURDER PEOPLE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy Jack View Post
    Is the claim not that the British let this and other attacks go ahead in order to protect agents within the IRA's so-called 'European unit'?

    Your OP is misleading - it is not simply the IRA 'turncoats' who could have prevented the attack but the British spooks who ran them and who they told about it.

    These revelations are just more evidence of the murky, morally-bankrupt nature of the 'war' in the North - as displayed by all sides involved.
    Fair point. I'll update OP accordingly.

    Really pointless savagery. Docco should be worth a watch - if only to see Gerry Adams endear himself to the Australian people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by centauro View Post
    So the "Brits" were responsible for Kingmills yesterday, and it's the Dutch murders today, sigh, perhaps the best way of preventing these murders would have been for the IRA to simply NOT MURDER PEOPLE?
    What part of 'murdered by the IRA' do you not get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by picador View Post
    What part of 'murdered by the IRA' do you not get?
    The subtext of your post is quite obvious, did the guy leading the unit not have an English accent? Perhaps Nairac wasn't buried in Ravensdale, but was spirited away to head up MI5's special anti Australian unit.

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    SF have discovered an excellent way of explaining away their worst atrocities of the Troubles - they can simply claim they were committed by agents of British intelligence who infiltrated the ranks.

    One day SF will claim the IRA never existed because the paramilitary organisation was all just a British puppet used to discredit republicanism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by centauro View Post
    The subtext of your post is quite obvious, did the guy leading the unit not have an English accent? Perhaps Nairac wasn't buried in Ravensdale, but was spirited away to head up MI5's special anti Australian unit.
    No I'm sorry but you're wrong. I suggest you read the linked articles - and then watch the documentary.

    You also appear confused. This thread has nothing to do with Nairac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niropiro View Post
    SF have discovered an excellent way of explaining away their worst atrocities of the Troubles - they can simply claim they were committed by agents of British intelligence who infiltrated the ranks.

    One day SF will claim the IRA never existed because the paramilitary organisation was all just a British puppet used to discredit republicanism.
    It is not SF who are claiming this. It is an Australian investigative journalist who has been talking to British intelligence sources and former agents within the IRA. The information is actually extremely embarrassing to Sinn Féin / PIRA as it claims one out of two top-ranking IRA members was an agent.

    But you'd have known that if you'd bothered to read the info provided, wouldn't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by picador View Post
    No I'm sorry but you're wrong. I suggest you read the linked articles - and then watch the documentary.

    You also appear confused. This thread has nothing to do with Nairac.
    He's not confused. For the second time in a week you've started up a deliberately misleading thread. These were not Dutch shootings. They were IRA shootings. There's no mention of turncoats in the articles.
    If you're the first out the door, that's not called panicking.

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