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    The IFA never had a hope of winning, so the ruling is hardly unexpected, but good news nevertheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbysands81 View Post
    Nope - why would they? They're not British.
    The Six Counties isn't British. There are two partitionist Irish teams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirHenryGrattan View Post
    Can players born in the Republic declare for NI?
    Yes, if their parents or grandparents were born in N.I.

    The IFA were never likely to win this case, but it was worth taking. The N.I. team is far better having players who actually want to play for the country rather than trying to force people to play for them.

    The only real losers in this are footballers who are actually from this country who have always lost out to imports, be they players coming in through the grandparent rule or through the N.I. route. There are few players from N.I. that would make a difference, Kearns can't even find a club to play for at the moment.
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    Great news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockofcashel View Post
    If they are British yes.. what the IFA seemed to not realise was, that under the Good Friday Agreement, people born in the 6 counties are entitled to both Irish and/or British citizenship.. those born in the Republic of Ireland are not entitled to this, unless a parent is born before the declaration of a republic in 1949
    Which up until the last few years would have been nearly every player. However although Northern Ireland got to two World Cup finals before we did, there was never a far better chance that a player would get to play in a major tournament with NI rather then the ROI. That is the case the opposite way round now.

    I do have a lot of sympathy with Northern Ireland on this. Because there is a far better chance of the ROI getting to a major tournmanent then NI, they will lose a lot of good players to the ROI and already have. However it's is clear that legally the court made the right decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith-M View Post

    The only real losers in this are footballers who are actually from this country who have always lost out to imports, be they players coming in through the grandparent rule or through the N.I. route. There are few players from N.I. that would make a difference, Kearns can't even find a club to play for at the moment.
    Players from Northern Ireland aren't "imports''.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scipio View Post
    Players from Northern Ireland aren't "imports''.
    Pay no attention....

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    Funny history here

    They were both called Ireland until the 1950 world cup and had players playing for both countries in the same qualifying campaign....


    Republic of Ireland national football team - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Both Associations, the Northern Ireland - based IFA and the Irish Free State - based FAI claimed jurisdiction over the whole of Ireland and considered themselves entitled to select players from the whole island. At least thirty-eight dual internationals were selected to represent both teams, [5] however the overwhelming majority of these were Southerners who also agreed to play for the IFA team, with only a bare handful "crossing the border" in the other direction. FIFA eventually intervened when both teams entered the 1950 FIFA World Cup, the first time they had entered the same competition. Four players – Tom Aherne, Reg Ryan, Davy Walsh and Con Martin – actually played for the two different teams in the same FIFA World Cup tournament.[6] All four players concerned had been born in the Irish Free State and made their full international debut in FAI colours before agreeing to represent the IFA team. This may have alarmed the FAI, since they subsequently lobbied FIFA to prevent the IFA from picking Southern-born players (as well as attempting to exert pressure on the players themselves, sometimes through their clubs). FIFA's response was to restrict players' eligibility on the basis of the (political) border, further ruling in 1953 that neither team could be referred to as Ireland in competitions which both teams were eligible to enter i.e. initially the World Cup and subsequently the European Nations Cup (now the European Championships). FIFA decreed that the FAI team be officially called the Republic of Ireland while the IFA team was to be named Northern Ireland.[7]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith-M View Post
    Yes, if their parents or grandparents were born in N.I.

    The IFA were never likely to win this case, but it was worth taking. The N.I. team is far better having players who actually want to play for the country rather than trying to force people to play for them.

    The only real losers in this are footballers who are actually from this country who have always lost out to imports, be they players coming in through the grandparent rule or through the N.I. route. There are few players from N.I. that would make a difference, Kearns can't even find a club to play for at the moment.
    How can you deem Irish citizens to be "imports"?

    Each of these "imports" has far more Irishness in them than you ever could.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbysands81 View Post
    How can you deem Irish citizens to be "imports"?

    Each of these "imports" has far more Irishness in them than you ever could.
    Because in essence, he's a gobshi**

    "imports", Jesus Christ Keith manages to come up with some stupidity on a regular occasion.
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