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    Quote Originally Posted by The Underdog View Post
    So why don’t you enlighten us all ?
    Mervyn is slightly taller than Uncle Andy and has more hair

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueBlue84 View Post
    Mervyn is slightly taller than Uncle Andy and has more hair
    So what’s the difference between loyalists and unionists ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Underdog View Post
    So what’s the difference between loyalists and unionists ?
    Mervyn and Andy are loyalists. Billy is a unionist if memory serves me correctly

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueBlue84 View Post
    Mervyn and Andy are loyalists. Billy is a unionist if memory serves me correctly
    So what’s the difference between Loyalists and Unionists ? Are you capable of answering that question ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Underdog View Post
    So what’s the difference between Loyalists and Unionists ? Are you capable of answering that question ?
    It is not an easy question to answer due to the subtle nuances between the two.

    I would say class is a major factor in that Loyalist are largely of a working class background.

    It could be education which is the defining factor.

    Supporting Rangers or Linfield rather than the Ulster Rugby Club or Northern Ireland football team.

    Going to band parades rather than Orange Order Marches

    However the one differential that I would draw on what defines a loyalist over a Unionist is the Loyalist's readyness to accept and use violence to meet their goals

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueBlue84 View Post
    It is not an easy question to answer due to the subtle nuances between the two.

    I would say class is a major factor in that Loyalist are largely of a working class background.

    It could be education which is the defining factor.

    Supporting Rangers or Linfield rather than the Ulster Rugby Club or Northern Ireland football team.

    Going to band parades rather than Orange Order Marches

    However the one differential that I would draw on what defines a loyalist over a Unionist is the Loyalist's readyness to accept and use violence to meet their goals
    My personal opinion is that a loyalist finds the use of violence acceptable, whereas a unionist is allegedly committed to peaceful means only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Underdog View Post
    My personal opinion is that a loyalist finds the use of violence acceptable, whereas a unionist is allegedly committed to peaceful means only.
    Allegedly being the key word. A unionist is a snobby loyalist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by picador View Post
    Allegedly being the key word. A unionist is a snobby loyalist.
    Whereas republicans are happy to use violence and nationalist are happy to turn a blind eye to it and offer false "not in my name" statements

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueBlue84 View Post
    Whereas republicans are happy to use violence and nationalist are happy to turn a blind eye to it and offer false "not in my name" statements
    I'm a republican and I oppose the use of violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by picador View Post
    Allegedly being the key word. A unionist is a snobby loyalist.
    Or to paraphrase Behan a loyalist is a protestant without a horse.

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