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Thread: After Saville - What Price Justice for Victims of Other British Army Shootings?

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    time to move on.

    The british army killed innocent people, catholic terrorists killed innocent protestants, protestant terrorists killed innocent catholics.

    Today is the day for looking forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toughbutfair View Post
    time to move on.

    The british army killed innocent people, catholic terrorists killed innocent protestants, protestant terrorists killed innocent catholics.

    Today is the day for looking forward.
    1998 was meant to be the start of looking forward.

    Unfortunately some people seem to think those who died in Derry that Sunday were more important than other victims of the IRA and Loyalists.

    Obviously people will be annoyed at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by British Citizen View Post
    1998 was meant to be the start of looking forward.

    Unfortunately some people seem to think those who died in Derry that Sunday were more important than other victims of the IRA and Loyalists.

    Obviously people will be annoyed at that.
    Interesting Freudian slip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra Syndrome View Post
    Interesting Freudian slip.
    Read all my posts douchebag.

    I've no problem calling the city Derry - unlike those childish Nationalists who can't bring themselves to utter the words 'Northern Ireland'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueBlue84 View Post
    I think you misunderstood me. I am implying that we will never know the truth regarding IRA activity, Loyalist activity so why should the British Army offer itself up as the sacrificial lamb when the two main players wont?
    And the British Army wasn,t a "main player" ?

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    ‘Bloody Sunday’ is the true face of British rule in Ireland
    Statement by the President of Republican Sinn Féin Des Dalton


    The long awaited ‘Saville Inquiry’ acknowledges for the first time that the 14 people murdered on ‘Bloody Sunday’ in Derry on January 30 1972 were innocent Civil Rights marchers however it fails on the crucial question of the responsibility of the British state for the murders.

    The belated acknowledgement of the innocence of those murdered and injured on ‘Bloody Sunday’ is welcome for the families of the victims but the Inquiry fails the critical test of identifying and admitting the responsibility of the British State for the murder of unarmed Irish people on the streets of their own city.

    The ‘Saville Inquiry’ lays sole responsibility for the murders on the British soldiers who fired the shots on ‘Bloody Sunday’ and their commanding officer. This is a cop-out and ignores the chain of command both political and military, which pitted assault troops such as the British Army’s Parachute Regiment against a peaceful anti-internment march. In August of the previous year over three days the same notorious British Army regiment murdered 11 people in Belfast.

    ‘Bloody Sunday’ is the true face of British rule in Ireland and the true face of imperialism as experienced today at the hands of the same army by the people of Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Three times in the 20th Century the forces of British occupation have visited a ‘Bloody Sunday’ on the Irish people. While British rule remains in Ireland the possibility of yet another will always exist.

    The British Government’s apology for the murders of ‘Bloody Sunday’ is meaningless while it continues to occupy Ireland. A just and lasting peace can only come following a British withdrawal and the creation of a New Ireland built by all of the Irish people Protestant, Catholic and Dissenter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toughbutfair View Post
    time to move on.

    The british army killed innocent people, catholic terrorists killed innocent protestants, protestant terrorists killed innocent catholics.

    Today is the day for looking forward.
    + 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by picador View Post
    Bloody Sunday was but one of a number of multiple shootings causing civilian casualties that was carried out by the British Army duing the early 1970s. The others took place mainly at night and away from the eyes of the media.

    The Ballymurphy shootings of 9th-11th August 1971 were carried out by the Parachute Regiment following the introduction of internment and left eleven dead.
    Ballymurphy Massacre-Home

    The Springhill shootings of July 9th 1972 coincided with the breakdown of a truce and left five people dead, including two boys who belonged to the IRA's youth wing.
    Springhill Massacre July 1972 - Relatives for Justice

    The New Lodge shootings of 3rd February 1973 left six dead, including three IRA members, two of whom were assassinated by loyalists.
    The Newlodge: The Newlodge Six

    In all three incidents cited above the accounts of civilian eye-witnesses differ wildly from those of the British Army.

    Now that the British state has finally come clean, so to speak, on Bloody Sunday - will the truth emerge about these other shootings which have not been forgotten in either north or west Belfast?
    This is a very valid point as it illustrates the British state's intent to systematically terrorise Nationalists into submission through state sponsored murder. It shows Bloody Sunday was not a one off. There should be more investigations as required. Another 200 million per should do just nicely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra Syndrome View Post
    Interesting Freudian slip.
    This is proof that BC is really a SF/IRA plant...who else would come up with the rubbish he spouts? Only someone on their payroll would try and defend mass murder of innocents. Let's hope he keeps running his mouth. (We all know he will).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldfinger2010 View Post
    This is a very valid point as it illustrates the British state's intent to systematically terrorise Nationalists into submission through state sponsored murder. It shows Bloody Sunday was not a one off. There should be more investigations as required. Another 200 million per should do just nicely.
    No cups of tea for the Brits then ? How quickly people forget.

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