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About LinkBacksIt wasn't the provo's, but to answer your question, it copperfastened the peace process and brought any republicans with reservations totally behind the SF leadershipOriginally Posted by picador
It wasn't the provo's, but to answer your question, it copperfastened the peace process and brought any republicans with reservations totally behind the SF leadership
The mods have now certified me as being a sweet and reasonable human being and Supreme Leader of the P.ie muppet alliance.
British intelligence agents killed 34 people in one go in Dublin
I have no idea how many people it takes to pull off an operation such as this. Could be 100. Could be far fewer.
I think these people are vetted and trained to do exactly what the job entails. They are intelligence people. Whether MI5 or MI6 or CIA or FBI, I think their jobs are to keep secrets and maintain dispassionate interest.
Also, it should be remembered that those people may well have believed that while they were acting to ensure that the bomb did go off, they might not have thought there would be 28 casaulties....after all, plenty of other bombs went off in Ireland during the troubles, and 28 were never killed....
I agree that those who planned and planted it are fully culpable. But would you not also agree that IF the Brits knew about it and chose to let it go off, that they are not also to blame? Or do you share their presumed belief that 28 lives are a fair price to pay for the change in political climate that the bomb helped secure?
BC, don't you see that the problem is with anyone who claims to be 100% sure of the situation? I agree that anyone who claims to be absolutely certain that the whole thing was an MI5 or MI6 inside job needs to be reeled in a little. But so does anyone who thinks it preposterous that Brit state security could be involved. Anyone who is absolutely sure in either direction is more than a little niave.
No, it necessitates that part of the RIRA is (or at least was) thoroughly infiltrated.
What do any of us really know about the Real IRA? I sweet FA I really presume that goes for everyone on this forum....
Some facts:
The bomb was being tracked by MI5
The phones of the bombers were tapped by MI5
The explosives used in the bomb were stored by a Brit agent in Donegal with the aid of CIRA
The bomb copper fastened the peace process.
Some questions:
Why have the tapes of the warning calls not been released to the media?
Why would the RIRA bomb a majority nationalist town?
Why would the RIRA target a town were the 32CSM had it's only elected representative?
Why were civilians herded towards the bomb?
Why, despite a massive security presence, did not a single police officer or soldier receive any injuries?
Why was the case thrown out of court?
Why were two RUC officers proved to have been lying in court?
Why did the RUC feel the need to beef up evidence statements?
Why did a senior Garda detective tell another officer "We'll let this one through" when he was told of the cars heading towards Omagh
Why did no British forces attempt to stop the car considering they were tracking it and had the cell phones tapped?
Why was DNA testing carried out incorrectly on the remnants of the car?
Why was evidence incorrectly stored?
Who called the MI5 headquarters on August 4th warning of a "dissident gun and bomb attack in Omagh on August 15th"?
Why were the FBI tracking the car?
Why was the FBI's agent withdrawn from Ireland and sent to London 2 days before the bombing?
But to what end would they have let it happen? There was the real posiblity that Loyalists could have said stick your peace process. Which would have been a major loss to the British state and its agenda of putting an end to the troubles. There was a lot of loyalist factions that would have liked nothing better than a return to the troubles.
It completed discredited anti-GFA Republicanism. You cant imagine the reaction to it in the Free State at the time.
Look Im not going to condemn any attacks on crown forces...BUT a friend of mine's sister is married to a guy from the north who's dad was an RUC man until the Provos shot him walking out of his house on the way to work and he as a 12 year old boy saw his dad's brains blown out...You would be a sick person if you didnt feel empathy for that child. No one wants violence excpect a few psychopaths. Though some do feel its necessary in order to stop violence in the long term. The vast majiority of the Loyalists realised unlike Paisley et al that the union was secure so why would they want a return to the troubles?
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