MI5 and Omagh - The Bomb to End All Bombs?

[Pat Mc Larnon]

A new phase that happens to dovetail with British strategy for Northern Ireland dating back to the 70s?

A rare point of agreement. I believe that there are forwarding thinking people within the British Establishment that do want to get their sorry asses out of here at the first opportunity.

[Ifor Bach]

A new phase that happens to dovetail with British strategy for Northern Ireland dating back to the 70s?

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During the Thatcher years, it seems that Gorbachov was not the only politician identified as being, 'someone with whom we can do business'.

[Ifor Bach]

A rare point of agreement. I believe that there are forwarding thinking people within the British Establishment that do want to get their sorry asses out of here at the first opportunity.

But I believe Republicans have always stated that their fight was with the British state, and not those Irish people who define themselves as 'British'.

[SevenStars]

But I believe Republicans have always stated that their fight was with the British state, and not those Irish people who define themselves as 'British'.

Or the ordinary people of England...I look forward to the day when the royal family are exceuted and the English workers' Republic becomes a reality.

[Ifor Bach]

Or the ordinary people of England...I look forward to the day when the royal family are exceuted and the English workers' Republic becomes a reality.

If I were you, I'd look forward to the day you stop listening to the little white mice in your head.

[Robo]

And why did they not want it to happen? Not out of any genuine concern for the Nationalist Population, thats for sure.
Bloody Sunday showed Westminster that they would not be able to get away with shooting anyone that looked at the security forces wrong, the back lash was to severe.
Also shooting people for looking at the security forces the wrong way, would have droves thousans more into the arms of the PIRA

I do believe they had/have genuine concerns for both populations, you bring up Bloody Sunday which I will use to make my point about the gloves coming of.

Bloody Sunday was not as bloody as it could have been but it was a very public, what they could have done was plant a number of bombs along the march route killing a few hundred. Then sat back and said nothing, the loyalist to would hold their hands up and said nothing to do with them. They could have did thousands of bombings like that but they never did.

Any town they suspected of supporting the IRA could have been bulldozzed to the ground and its population displaced.

They could have went for population displacement on a religous basis.

They could sent the army in its regular form, APC, main battle tanks, mortars artiliery, air and sea support with the order to do what ever needed to be done.

A Bloody Sunday very day for years.....

I mean get real they never went in all guns blazing and nor did they want to. But if they did they could have and not much could have been done to stop it.

[Portstewart]

A rare point of agreement. I believe that there are forwarding thinking people within the British Establishment that do want to get their sorry asses out of here at the first opportunity.

If you say so, though it looks more like a comprehensive defeat of an enemy to me. As ever you miss the whole point that the Brits are the British people living in Northern Ireland. They are not going anywhere. Still on for 2016 then is it?

[Portstewart]

If I were you, I'd look forward to the day you stop listening to the little white mice in your head.

Indeed.

[Pat Mc Larnon]

But I believe Republicans have always stated that their fight was with the British state, and not those Irish people who define themselves as 'British'.

Once the forward thinking peoples of Britain and Ireland move beyond the temporary agreement that is the GFA towards the more permanent solution of a UI then people are quite clearly free to label themselves anything they want.

[Pat Mc Larnon]

If you say so, though it looks more like a comprehensive defeat of an enemy to me. As ever you miss the whole point that the Brits are the British people living in Northern Ireland. They are not going anywhere. Still on for 2016 then is it?

The Baltic Exchange and Canary Wharf puts that little bit of revisionism in perspective. As for the British people living in Ireland, they are free to label themselves anything they want.