MI5 and Omagh - The Bomb to End All Bombs?

[SevenStars]

You would be siding with Hitler if WW2 was today.

World War 1 yes I would have sided with Germany, WW2 no I wouldnt have but I wouldnt have sided with Churchill or Stalin either. It's interesting to note that the German resistance to Hilter turned their guns on the against the new oppressor as they poured across the border.

Im sorry if you sense such hatred from my posts...I real dont feel such emotions as I type...Again it depends what you mean by British...Im quite fond of Yorkshire pudding, jeelied eels and the old Book of Common Prayer.

[Portstewart]

The UVF or the UDA werent exactly very good at killing provos now where they...But killing the actual volunteers wasnt their role in the conflict...

A combatant is a combatant...A non-combatant is a non-combatant. The volunteers knew what they were getting into and who they were getting into it with....I do find the British costum of further mutilating the corpse of dead enemy combatant to prevent their families having open top funerals and cause their loved ones further upset a bit tasteless though.

They killed a fair number in the late 80s and 90s which im glad to hear you found perfectly acceptable. The UVF was all over the provos in East Tyrone for a while.

So you had a high regard for Loughgall as a sound military operation combatant on combatant then? You had your cap doffed over Gibralter?

Funny all I remember at the time from republicans was whinge whinge whinge.

[SevenStars]

It is your poisonous hatred of all things British that is the pinnacle and focal point of everything you believe, all the rest is just fitted nicely round it.

One thing I dont like about "British" culture is its lack of self criticism...Where are the British Thomas Manns, Michel Foucoults, Jean Paul Satres and Henrik Ibsens?

Can you name one leading figure in "British" cultural life besides John Lennon who came out in support of the IRA?

[SevenStars]

They killed a fair number in the late 80s and 90s which im glad to hear you found perfectly acceptable. The UVF was all over the provos in East Tyrone for a while.

So you had a high regard for Loughgall as a sound military operation combatant on combatant then? You had your cap doffed over Gibralter?

Funny all I remember at the time from republicans was whinge whinge whinge.

And unionists never whinge?

According to CAIN of those killed by the UVF 83 per cent were civilians (which of course was a vital part of the British stratergy) and only 4 per cent were Republican volunteers. Hardly "all over the IRA"...

The brutality inflicted on the corpses in Loughgall was hardly sporting as the English would say...

[Portstewart]

One thing I dont like about "British" culture is its lack of self criticism...Where are the British Thomas Manns, Michel Foucoults, Jean Paul Satres and Henrik Ibsens?

Can you name one leading figure in "British" cultural life besides John Lennon who came out in support of the IRA?

There is a multitude of self criticism in British culture, Id be surprised if there was any country in the world with more self criticism. Have you read the Guardian? British comedy and satire is also world renowned and is full of self criticism and introspection through the use of humour. You are much more likely to find small countries with chips on the shoulder having problems with self criticism, far far more common.

Elements of the left have always been sympathetic to the provos, Ken Livingston and George Galloway for example, though you wouldn't find many British people coming out in support of psycopathic terrorists who blow up British people remembering their war dead, do you think that is likely or find it strange? There was a fair amount of sympathy at the beginning of the troubles from certain quarters but the IRA saw to that.

[Portstewart]

And unionists never whinge?

According to CAIN of those killed by the UVF 83 per cent were civilians (which of course was a vital part of the British stratergy) and only 4 per cent were Republican volunteers. Hardly "all over the IRA"...

The brutality inflicted on the corpses in Loughgall was hardly sporting as the English would say...

There is a chapter Death in Tyrone in Ed Maloney's book on the IRA. He basically says they had them on the run and the provos were in fear of them.

I have no idea what your taking about im afraid, im sure there was good reason for whatever they did. It will be on a different planet to what the provos did to human beings with the La Mon bomb and several others.

And what about Jean McConville and others? You talk about disrespecting the dead, 'dissappearing' them is about the worst thing you could possibly do to the families.

[SevenStars]

Elements of the left have always been sympathetic to the provos, Ken Livingston and George Galloway for example, though you wouldn't find many British people coming out in support of psycopathic terrorists who blow up British people remembering their war dead, do you think that is likely or find it strange? There was a fair amount of sympathy at the beginning of the troubles from certain quarters but the IRA saw to that.

The FLN in Algeria made the Provos at their worst look Amish choir boys.

Do you consider the UVF to have been "psychopathtic terrorists" or was "loyality" their only crime?

[SevenStars]

The fact is that out of any of the combatant parties (the UVF, the British Army, the RUC, etc) the IRA kept the non-combatants killed to a minimum.

So if they were psychopaths what does that make the Brits and the loyalists?

[Portstewart]

The FLN in Algeria made the Provos at their worst look Amish choir boys.

Do you consider the UVF to have been "psychopathtic terrorists" or was "loyality" their only crime?

Yes alot of them were undoubtedly psychopathic terrorists.

[SevenStars]

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The only conspiracy on 9/11 was the one that hajacked planes and crashed them into buildings, with the intent to kill as many people as possible. Are people realy that Wacko that they can't except what happened?

You maybe right...I was seriously crap at science at school. I have looked at both sides and cant make up my mind about 9/11...The point I was making though is that serious people believe it to have been an inside job.