Republican provocation against the Orange Order

[MaoTseHelens]

Didn't know it'd convert to Youtube right away, I'd just like to highlight that the Wolfe Tones are a nationalist band and don't play anti-Protestant music, whereas the Orange Order does.

They're trying to treat the two the same, and they simply aren't.

[CiaranMc]

Londonderry motorist gets suspended prison sentence for trying to incite violence from Orange Order parade followers.

Typical of nationalists - trying to goad a violent reaction from law abiding religious marchers.

This is just a wild guess on my part - are you a British citizen, British Citizen?

[British Citizen]

Didn't know it'd convert to Youtube right away, I'd just like to highlight that the Wolfe Tones are a nationalist band and don't play anti-Protestant music, whereas the Orange Order does.

They're trying to treat the two the same, and they simply aren't.

Music that glorifies Irish Republican violence is 'anti-protestant' as it was protestants who suffered from said violence.

[Chrisco]

Music that glorifies Irish Republican violence is 'anti-protestant' as it was protestants who suffered from said violence.

Is music from a group that glorifies a Protestant, anti-Protestant?

[oboe]

Music that glorifies Irish Republican violence is 'anti-protestant' as it was protestants who suffered from said violence.

It's only music. Nothing to get offended by. I'm sure not everyone who listens to it is in the IRA.

[pjoz]

It was a ridiculous thing to do and he deserved his punishment.

If someone was blaring the Sash my Father wore outside a republican funeral or a memorial service that would be just as actionable. I remember a similar case in England last year where some idiot was prosecuted when he blared music during a soldier's funeral.

Stop making excuses for this lout by dressing this up as some sort of injustice against nationalists. By doing so you're actually validating the original trolling OP.

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[SevenStars]

Opus Dei is a religious order. The Orange Order are a social club that's been around for ages. The BNP are a political party and subject to different rules. The 3 organisations are totally different, so trying to compare similarities is a waste of time. It's trying to compare apples to oranges to dogturds.

Opus Dei is a lay and not a religious order that you have to be invited into and is closed to those without university educations and social status. The Orange Order is a quasi-Freemasonic group with oaths etc...Bit different from Salford Lad's club.

[SevenStars]

Music that glorifies Irish Republican violence is 'anti-protestant' as it was protestants who suffered from said violence.

You might aswell say than the a lot of loyalist songs are also anti-protestant in that protestant Germans suffered from said violence in the battle of the Somme.

[damon]

So he was being a bit provocative. It's not a big deal really. If he had been driving his car at people then swerving away at the last moment or something, then I'd support him getting done. But just for a bit of provocation? No.

I went down to that ''Climate Camp'' that was set up on Blackheath in London in the summer. (The thing about climate change with all the hippies).
I'm not really into it myself, but live nearby so just went over for a look.

They had a perimeter fence, and at one point a Ferrari pulled up on the grass verge next to it, with music blaring out the windows and started reving his engine really loudly, then tearing off for twenty yards kicking up earth and grass before stopping and doing it again.

He was clearly being provocative - and was an arse, but wasn't really doing anything criminal. And if I was a cop, I'd have just told him to bugger off.

On the Woolf Tones. I like their song 'Joe McDonnell' about the hunger striker ..... even though I reject violent Republicanism. It's got a nice melody, and is quite powerful on the emotions.

But then, I also like this one too - as I remember it being played live at an Orange Hall social club after an Old Firm game in about 1980.
And remember seeing all the older people waltzing around the dance floor to it. It's got a nice melody as well.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmWrRr_bLXs"]YouTube- Here Lies a Soldier (old version)[/ame]

[cgcsb2]

No, about 75%.

2001 census: 77.8 percent were from a Roman Catholic background and 20.8 percent were from a Protestant background;