Republican provocation against the Orange Order

[Thranduil]

Typical of nationalists - trying to goad a violent reaction from law abiding religious marchers.

If playing a song at an Orange gathering is inciting violence then we have to ask from whom is it exciting violence, clearly it must be the Orangemen and their entourage (nobody else, the man was on his own). If the Orangemen are capable of reacting with violence to a non violent initial incident - then surely every single Orange March that goes where it is not wanted is also inciting violence as it is allowing a group believed to be capable of using violence to meet up in numbers with those communities and with that culture they feel so offended by the very existence of that they could initiate violence when exposed to it.

Judge said....

"He said that if there was such a thing as "a good time and good place" to play music by the Wolfe Tones, it was not during Orange Order parades."

Presumably he would extend his logic and agree that there is a good time and a good place to allow an Orange March too (the Northern State and British Authorities are very late coming to this realisation).

In a book called The Craic, Mark McCrumm, an English writer descended from northern Protestant stock, describes a meeting with Loyalist paramilitaries.

I have only ever really heard that expression 'stock' applied to Ulster Protestants (planter descendants), it seems to echo the language of the 16th/17th C British Aristocracy when they were discussing plans to secure Ireland, James spoke of moving across Scotsmen to settle Ireland - Cromwell sought North American planters and Britons. My point is that the word 'stock' in this sense is also used for breeding animals and in a sense when they invited them over that's all the more 'malleable' new arrival population would be in the eyes of the British aristocracy, breeding stock to replace out the Gaels. Sadly it says all too much about the attitudes of the British elites - and is probably a carryover from much earlier events like the Norman invasion - the establishment of a racial (Norman) ruling class and the Saxons just like 'stock'.

He asks them why they are so against a united Ireland and they replied that they were against it because if it became a reality they wouldn't survive more than a few weeks in it.

Continuing from what i said in the above paragraph you could say the Ulster Loyalists were 'bred' by the British aristocracy to believe such things (though as they had come over to replace/dispossess them the fear likely was a real one with much justification in the early days of the plantations).

[Molly Maguire]

Never see them banging the auld Lambeg drums then no?

Got to admit to enjoying the old Lambeg drumming.
Stood and watched a Lambeg drumming competition on Derry,s Walls a few years back.
You could hear the drumming a couple of miles away.
Sparked off rioting that lasted over night.
Not one paper mentioned the Lambeg drumming had been going on for about 8 hours overlooking the Bogside.
Bit of a bummer if your trying to watch the soaps.