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    Quote Originally Posted by rockofcashel View Post
    You are more than welcome on the site. However, please do not make statements which have documentary evidence showing that they are untrue.

    The GAA did not, or do not, as an entity, support either the IRA or the INLA.

    A particular commemoration was held in a GAA ground, which at the time, GAA Headquarters asked the local branch not to go ahead with. The local branch refused to comply with their wishes. That is what happened.

    No please, do not extrapolate from that, that the GAA support the IRA and INLA. It simply is not true, and for that reason, I will not allow it to be posted as true.
    But you will allow a lot of rubbish posted about the OO to stay on the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifor Bach View Post
    Just out of curiosity, have commemorations for Loyalist terrorists ever been held on Orange Order property?
    Only funerals or commemorations for members who belonged to both the OO and either the UVF or UDA. Though it would have been because of their membership of the OO.

    From my own experience (in Belfast anyway) I've always found a bit of tension between paramilitaries and OO members. OO members tend to look down their noses at the 'heavies' who throw their weight around and the 'heavies' view OO members as 'one-day-a-year' Loyalists who are only ever seen on the 12th July.

    Definitely not cosy bedfellows from my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SevenStars View Post
    Your connecting the Glorious Reformation with the Enlightment so-called is obvious proof of what Im on about.

    Actually I think that SouthernOrangeman agreed with me on this point.
    I think you're adding up one and one and getting a little more than two.

    The fact that there is an undoubted connection between the reformation and the enlightenment, is not a ground for identifying protestantism with liberalism.

    That's a bit like saying that Hegelianism is the same as Marxism.

    Nobody believes that either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by British Citizen View Post
    Only funerals or commemorations for members who belonged to both the OO and either the UVF or UDA. Though it would have been because of their membership of the OO.

    From my own experience (in Belfast anyway) I've always found a bit of tension between paramilitaries and OO members. OO members tend to look down their noses at the 'heavies' who throw their weight around and the 'heavies' view OO members as 'one-day-a-year' Loyalists who are only ever seen on the 12th July.

    Definitely not cosy bedfellows from my experience.
    Another question.

    GAA clubs and trophies have been named after IRA members.

    Are there any OO lodges named after dead terrorists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by euryalus View Post
    Irish exiles have certainly founded Orange lodges in unexpected places - Oxford and Luton come to mind - but I am suggesting that Lancashire in general (and Liverpool in particular) have a much longer tradition of "Orangism".

    Irish exiles? - surely Orange Order is anti-Irish wherever. Racist against the irish in Liverpool, Glasgow, wherever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifor Bach View Post
    Another question.

    GAA clubs and trophies have been named after IRA members.

    Are there any OO lodges named after dead terrorists?
    I know the 'Boyne Island Heroes' lodge has the names of a number of UVF members on it's bannerette - again this was because they were members of that lodge when they died.

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    There goes the neighbourhood

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    brit cit

    i would be interested in having the odd discussion with you as it appears we are form oposite side of the house. I would concider my self a irish nationalist and poor speller.

    Are you a true blue brit???

    regular joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by regularjoe View Post
    brit cit

    i would be interested in having the odd discussion with you as it appears we are form oposite side of the house. I would concider my self a irish nationalist and poor speller.

    Are you a true blue brit???

    regular joe
    What do you mean by 'true blue'?? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by British Citizen View Post
    Any chance you could read the rest of the posts in a thread before commenting with your anti-protestant, sectarian hate?
    Im a believing Protestant not to fond of the Ecumenical movement but I just dont see the sectarianism that you see around everywhere...You even called aggressivesecularist who supported the infamous Bull Lee here a sectarian.

    Stop abusing the word.

    And anyway you said you dont believe in God....

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