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Thread: The IRA/Irish state War against the Loyalist working class

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    I will go one better than that - the government of Ireland not only stood idly by when its citizens were being murdered by a foreign power and its state sponsored death squads it actually supported the murderers
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    Quote Originally Posted by beardyboy
    I will go one better than that - the government of Ireland not only stood idly by when its citizens were being murdered by a foreign power and its state sponsored death squads it actually supported the murderers
    Which is why reunification might throw us into their "yes men" state.

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    The criminal Free State regime is not the "Irish Government", nor is it the "Government of Ireland".
    "I hereby declare that the Continuity Executive and the Continuity Army Council are the lawful Executive and Army Council respectively of the Irish Republican Army, and that the governmental authority, delegated in the Proclamation of 1938, now resides in the Continuity Army Council, and its lawful successors."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Risteard
    The criminal Free State regime is not the "Irish Government", nor is it the "Government of Ireland".
    Says who?
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    Quote Originally Posted by smiffy
    Quote Originally Posted by Risteard
    The criminal Free State regime is not the "Irish Government", nor is it the "Government of Ireland".
    Says who?
    The Irish Government (or the Government of Ireland).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish_Roman
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    lol I might join you in that I think "Alliance" needs some company
    It's buffty/bonty in my case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pidge
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    The criminal Free State regime is not the "Irish Government", nor is it the "Government of Ireland".
    Says who?
    The Irish Government (or the Government of Ireland).
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    The perception was of the Irish bourgeoisie, or a section of it, collaborating with the IRA to coerce by 'terror' the Protestants into a capitalist united Ireland. This was an important factor in the emergence of the Loyalist para-military organisations and their vicious, murderous campaign against ordinary Catholics, as well as the bloody bombing of Dublin itself.
    the important factor at work was the direct sponsorship , direction and assistance of the British intelligence services . The SP seem as nutty and blinkered as BICO in this regard whos analysis and theory cant cope with the spectre of institutionalised collusion north and south with the loyalist groups , themselves little more than anti insurgent fronts for the British . By the way the detested lunatic BICO organisation was commonly referred to as the Peking branch of the Orange order , due to its bizarre hybrid of Maoist communist theory grafted onto viciously anti Irish bigotry and prejudice .

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOD
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    Someone to keep Factual company on my ignore list.
    lol I might join you in that I think "Alliance" needs some company
    It's buffty/bonty in my case.
    that timewasting pervert sent me a disgusting sexual pm a couple of months ago . I should have reported him .

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    Even going back to the early 1920s republican Protestants in Belfast were prevented from laying a wreath to commemorate the Easter rising.
    who stopped them and do you have any evidence to back this up?

    Like a standard blinkered Republican you dismiss the Catholic reactionary stance which was the norm of irish republicanism from the 1920s onwards and the attitude it created in the Protestant working class.
    that's pure ************************e. this isnt a 'chicken or the egg' type conundrum here - it has a starting point. you people were planted here in ireland because of your religion. protestant,presbytarian or anglican - whatever,as long as it was non-catholic. when through democratic politics the chance of very limited home rule was achieved, the protestants formed their own militia, sometimes signing up in their own blood mind you, who's aim was to crush home rule through any means. (the british army were most helpful getting them armed - sound familiar?) to say the ira of the 20's onwards was a cause of protestant mistrust is bollox. the ira came from the Volunteers who were set up in the face of protestant sectarianism.

    religion has always been a major factor in recent irish history.maybe unionists need to wake up to their history. you've split a country on religious grounds mainly - you talk of 'ulster' yet you left out three counties because they had catholic majorities. how frequent were the pograms through belfast? just often enough to keep people in their place it would seem. this treatment fed republicanisms own religious freaks and bigots and sadly the ira fell into the sectarian trap.

    They saw that reactionary inspired Republicanism reinforced the union.
    in the short term yes it did, security and the north were big parts of thatcher's election manifesto. i'm sure unionists felt safe with her around. but in the long term the simple fact is 'reactionary inspired Republicanism' has changed the politcal landscape. for better or worse has still to be seen, from a republican perspective.

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