Originally Posted by meriwether
Dont make up lies, quote where I have been an apologist for Billy Wright ?
Originally Posted by meriwether
Dont make up lies, quote where I have been an apologist for Billy Wright ?
There was no lack of experience involved in the Dublin/Monaghan bombings. They were co-ordinated by Brit intelligence after all.
Brits out!
Originally Posted by The Hallion
They were planted by a UVF team, why cant they claim inexperience as well ?
In reality in was 14 int giving the sourthen govt and PIRA a bloody nose for bloody friday.
Lets just clear it up so.Originally Posted by terry666
Do you think the tactics of indiscriminate sectarian killings carried out by Loyalist paramilatries were justified?
Theres one major hole in your "blame it all on the IRA" Theory.
You claim loyalists only killed because the IRA killed and when loyalists hadnt killed as much as the IRA, then the IRA was therefore killing for no reason.
Thre "protestant ulster for protestant people" the unionists only run government and security forces, the state giving guns to loyalists (b-specials) the collusion that protected loyalists, the discrimination against nationalists in housing, and the fixed elections that gave unionists a majority in the bogside of derry a prodominatly republican area (which kickstarted the battle of the bogside), making the peaceful civil rights protest illegal etc etc......
These were all reasons that created a completely inevitable conflict.
Look at how the northern ireland was run in the 70's and 80's, anyone will tell you it was an anti-catholic sectarian hell hole.
Unionists only have their "but the IRA" excuse, thats why it still gets used even today to justify anything, that is why you hear it so much to the point where people are just sick of hearing unionism blame the IRA on everything, over and over.......
Abstinence makes the Church grow fondlers.
Originally Posted by meriwether
No I dont, but I think it was IRA actions which led to the reamurgence of a stronger and better supported UVF and creation of the UDA.
Are you really that dillusional????Originally Posted by terry666
In response to Billy Write killing a completely innocent random young man by shooting him up to 30 times..
So Billy write was just killing people in the 80's because the IRA killed people in the 70's?Originally Posted by terry666
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Abstinence makes the Church grow fondlers.
[quote=terry666]Originally Posted by meriwether
No I dont, but I think it was IRA actions which led to the reamurgence of a stronger and better supported UVF and creation of the UDA.[/quote:2etgr65n]
Would you class them as murderers?
[quote=terry666]Originally Posted by meriwether
No I dont, but I think it was IRA actions which led to the reamurgence of a stronger and better supported UVF and creation of the UDA.[/quote:2qx3iwfe]
So you admit these thugs were killing people before the IRA campaign,therefore you understand why the IRA started its campaign?
Unionists and loyalist sickening sectarian rule of the north created the IRA at the start of the troubles.
Abstinence makes the Church grow fondlers.
Originally Posted by st333ve
Much of the sectanism of the North was a mirror image of the South with its education sysyem teaching children about 'black Protestants' it was Dev who first stated the south was a catholic state for a catholic people.
If you look at Protestant history and their historic mistrust and conflict with the catholic church, the events of 1921, and the creation of a southern clerical state, its no conncidence a sectarian seige mentality reamurged in the north.
If the South had been a modernist secular state designed like denmark or norway, the problems of the north would not exist today.
But there are too equally negative cultural forces at play, southern begrudgery and failure to lead or take responsiblity and northen obstinacy and mistrust, both reinforce each other.