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    Quote Originally Posted by meriwether
    Quote Originally Posted by terry666
    Quote Originally Posted by meriwether
    Terry666, you're a vile sectarian piece of a human being.
    I see no difference between you and those who planted the La Mon bomb. Two sides of the same coin you are.


    I am not related to Ferris and would never plant a napam bomb designed to burn people to death in a busy restaurant with no warning. The IRA once again claimed it was an economic target, why did they not bomb it in the middle of the night then ?

    Dont blame me for the actions of Martin ferris and others.
    Im not. You're an apologist for Billy Wright.
    You're no better than someone defends the La Mon bomb.


    Dont make up lies, quote where I have been an apologist for Billy Wright ?

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    There was no lack of experience involved in the Dublin/Monaghan bombings. They were co-ordinated by Brit intelligence after all.
    Brits out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hallion
    There was no lack of experience involved in the Dublin/Monaghan bombings. They were co-ordinated by Brit intelligence after all.

    They were planted by a UVF team, why cant they claim inexperience as well ?



    In reality in was 14 int giving the sourthen govt and PIRA a bloody nose for bloody friday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry666
    Quote Originally Posted by meriwether
    Quote Originally Posted by terry666
    Quote Originally Posted by meriwether
    Terry666, you're a vile sectarian piece of a human being.
    I see no difference between you and those who planted the La Mon bomb. Two sides of the same coin you are.


    I am not related to Ferris and would never plant a napam bomb designed to burn people to death in a busy restaurant with no warning. The IRA once again claimed it was an economic target, why did they not bomb it in the middle of the night then ?

    Dont blame me for the actions of Martin ferris and others.
    Im not. You're an apologist for Billy Wright.
    You're no better than someone defends the La Mon bomb.


    Dont make up lies, quote where I have been an apologist for Billy Wright ?
    Lets just clear it up so.
    Do you think the tactics of indiscriminate sectarian killings carried out by Loyalist paramilatries were justified?

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    Theres one major hole in your "blame it all on the IRA" Theory.

    You claim loyalists only killed because the IRA killed and when loyalists hadnt killed as much as the IRA, then the IRA was therefore killing for no reason.

    Thre "protestant ulster for protestant people" the unionists only run government and security forces, the state giving guns to loyalists (b-specials) the collusion that protected loyalists, the discrimination against nationalists in housing, and the fixed elections that gave unionists a majority in the bogside of derry a prodominatly republican area (which kickstarted the battle of the bogside), making the peaceful civil rights protest illegal etc etc......

    These were all reasons that created a completely inevitable conflict.
    Look at how the northern ireland was run in the 70's and 80's, anyone will tell you it was an anti-catholic sectarian hell hole.

    Unionists only have their "but the IRA" excuse, thats why it still gets used even today to justify anything, that is why you hear it so much to the point where people are just sick of hearing unionism blame the IRA on everything, over and over.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by meriwether
    Quote Originally Posted by terry666
    Quote Originally Posted by meriwether
    Quote Originally Posted by terry666
    Quote Originally Posted by meriwether
    Terry666, you're a vile sectarian piece of a human being.
    I see no difference between you and those who planted the La Mon bomb. Two sides of the same coin you are.


    I am not related to Ferris and would never plant a napam bomb designed to burn people to death in a busy restaurant with no warning. The IRA once again claimed it was an economic target, why did they not bomb it in the middle of the night then ?

    Dont blame me for the actions of Martin ferris and others.
    Im not. You're an apologist for Billy Wright.
    You're no better than someone defends the La Mon bomb.


    Dont make up lies, quote where I have been an apologist for Billy Wright ?
    Lets just clear it up so.
    Do you think the tactics of indiscriminate sectarian killings carried out by Loyalist paramilatries were justified?


    No I dont, but I think it was IRA actions which led to the reamurgence of a stronger and better supported UVF and creation of the UDA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry666
    Quote Originally Posted by meriwether
    Quote Originally Posted by terry666
    Quote Originally Posted by meriwether
    Terry666, you're a vile sectarian piece of a human being.
    I see no difference between you and those who planted the La Mon bomb. Two sides of the same coin you are.


    I am not related to Ferris and would never plant a napam bomb designed to burn people to death in a busy restaurant with no warning. The IRA once again claimed it was an economic target, why did they not bomb it in the middle of the night then ?

    Dont blame me for the actions of Martin ferris and others.
    Im not. You're an apologist for Billy Wright.
    You're no better than someone defends the La Mon bomb.


    Dont make up lies, quote where I have been an apologist for Billy Wright ?
    Are you really that dillusional????

    In response to Billy Write killing a completely innocent random young man by shooting him up to 30 times..
    Quote Originally Posted by terry666
    Such tactics were used as a response to the PIRA bombing civilan protestant targets and neighbourhoods,such as pubs and community centres, it was the Provos who spiralled the conflict out of control in 71.

    It was invitable attacks would be lauched against innocent catholics as a response.
    So Billy write was just killing people in the 80's because the IRA killed people in the 70's?

    WTF
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    [quote=terry666]
    Quote Originally Posted by meriwether
    Quote Originally Posted by terry666
    Quote Originally Posted by meriwether
    Quote Originally Posted by terry666
    Quote Originally Posted by "meriwether":2etgr65n
    Terry666, you're a vile sectarian piece of a human being.
    I see no difference between you and those who planted the La Mon bomb. Two sides of the same coin you are.


    I am not related to Ferris and would never plant a napam bomb designed to burn people to death in a busy restaurant with no warning. The IRA once again claimed it was an economic target, why did they not bomb it in the middle of the night then ?

    Dont blame me for the actions of Martin ferris and others.
    Im not. You're an apologist for Billy Wright.
    You're no better than someone defends the La Mon bomb.


    Dont make up lies, quote where I have been an apologist for Billy Wright ?
    Lets just clear it up so.
    Do you think the tactics of indiscriminate sectarian killings carried out by Loyalist paramilatries were justified?


    No I dont, but I think it was IRA actions which led to the reamurgence of a stronger and better supported UVF and creation of the UDA.[/quote:2etgr65n]

    Would you class them as murderers?

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    [quote=terry666]
    Quote Originally Posted by meriwether
    Quote Originally Posted by terry666
    Quote Originally Posted by meriwether
    Quote Originally Posted by terry666
    Quote Originally Posted by "meriwether":2qx3iwfe
    Terry666, you're a vile sectarian piece of a human being.
    I see no difference between you and those who planted the La Mon bomb. Two sides of the same coin you are.


    I am not related to Ferris and would never plant a napam bomb designed to burn people to death in a busy restaurant with no warning. The IRA once again claimed it was an economic target, why did they not bomb it in the middle of the night then ?

    Dont blame me for the actions of Martin ferris and others.
    Im not. You're an apologist for Billy Wright.
    You're no better than someone defends the La Mon bomb.


    Dont make up lies, quote where I have been an apologist for Billy Wright ?
    Lets just clear it up so.
    Do you think the tactics of indiscriminate sectarian killings carried out by Loyalist paramilatries were justified?


    No I dont, but I think it was IRA actions which led to the reamurgence of a stronger and better supported UVF and creation of the UDA.[/quote:2qx3iwfe]

    So you admit these thugs were killing people before the IRA campaign,therefore you understand why the IRA started its campaign?

    Unionists and loyalist sickening sectarian rule of the north created the IRA at the start of the troubles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by st333ve
    Theres one major hole in your "blame it all on the IRA" Theory.

    You claim loyalists only killed because the IRA killed and when loyalists hadnt killed as much as the IRA, then the IRA was therefore killing for no reason.

    Thre "protestant ulster for protestant people" the unionists only run government and security forces, the state giving guns to loyalists (b-specials) the collusion that protected loyalists, the discrimination against nationalists in housing, and the fixed elections that gave unionists a majority in the bogside of derry a prodominatly republican area (which kickstarted the battle of the bogside), making the peaceful civil rights protest illegal etc etc......

    These were all reasons that created a completely inevitable conflict.
    Look at how the northern ireland was run in the 70's and 80's, anyone will tell you it was an anti-catholic sectarian hell hole.


    Much of the sectanism of the North was a mirror image of the South with its education sysyem teaching children about 'black Protestants' it was Dev who first stated the south was a catholic state for a catholic people.

    If you look at Protestant history and their historic mistrust and conflict with the catholic church, the events of 1921, and the creation of a southern clerical state, its no conncidence a sectarian seige mentality reamurged in the north.

    If the South had been a modernist secular state designed like denmark or norway, the problems of the north would not exist today.

    But there are too equally negative cultural forces at play, southern begrudgery and failure to lead or take responsiblity and northen obstinacy and mistrust, both reinforce each other.

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