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    A partitionist attitude

    After having a rather heated argument with some family members and party members regarding this I think the best way to calm myself done is a good old rant.

    I am so pissed off with peoples attitude toward the North when it comes to economics. For example yesterdays announcement from the Minister of Education regarding the schools being allowed go out for tender.

    Here (being in the border region) people go furious when a Northern Developer gets the job even if it means saving the tax payer thousands if not hundred of thousands of euro. It has happened on numerous ocassions with regard to fire stations, schools, garda stations etc. On one such ocasion I saw that a saving of almost 125,000 was made on a large scale product yet all the people could care about was not that they were getting the new facility or not that it was at a cheaper price but because it was giving money to some "foreign" company.

    It is a sad reflection when todays society has lost all decency in regards to people from the six counties. It also sickens me to see how the aspirations or even dreams of a united Ireland have dwindled all because of commercialisation.

    Yet the people are so hypocrital. They give out about the government awarding contracts at cheaper prices but they hop across the border and buy up what they can at cheaper prices. To me I have no problem with this except the shame of where the taxes end up going. But people pontificate about the poor unfortunate builder who lost out on a few months employment and yet do the local shopkeeper out of work also!!

    I have no problem providing the nation with services but if they're going to be so picky over who gets it at the cheapest price then I take issue.

    Some people I have talked to treat the six counties as a foreign country with foreign people. The same people would still give out if an Irish contractor got the deal and employed ten or twelve non-nationals!!! I mean what do these people want? Should we just lock up everything and everyone in the North and only let them pass if they wave some money at us?

    Again hypocracy was shown when people were giving out about the salt and grit suppliers in the six counties would not put us top of the priority list. The way I see it now is that people only want and use the people of the North when it benefits themselves. They don't see that its a give and take cycle.

    What sickens me is that we have nationalists up the north who are in a statlet that doesnt want them and have a neighbour that doesnts want them either!!

    Ireland is a 32 county island with all its inhabitants being Irish. If people want to take this partitionist attitude towards our friend across the border, well I have little faith in our society.

    END OF RANT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Ograff View Post
    After having a rather heated argument with some family members and party members regarding this I think the best way to calm myself done is a good old rant.

    I am so pissed off with peoples attitude toward the North when it comes to economics. For example yesterdays announcement from the Minister of Education regarding the schools being allowed go out for tender.

    Here (being in the border region) people go furious when a Northern Developer gets the job even if it means saving the tax payer thousands if not hundred of thousands of euro. It has happened on numerous ocassions with regard to fire stations, schools, garda stations etc. On one such ocasion I saw that a saving of almost 125,000 was made on a large scale product yet all the people could care about was not that they were getting the new facility or not that it was at a cheaper price but because it was giving money to some "foreign" company.

    It is a sad reflection when todays society has lost all decency in regards to people from the six counties. It also sickens me to see how the aspirations or even dreams of a united Ireland have dwindled all because of commercialisation.

    Yet the people are so hypocrital. They give out about the government awarding contracts at cheaper prices but they hop across the border and buy up what they can at cheaper prices. To me I have no problem with this except the shame of where the taxes end up going. But people pontificate about the poor unfortunate builder who lost out on a few months employment and yet do the local shopkeeper out of work also!!

    I have no problem providing the nation with services but if they're going to be so picky over who gets it at the cheapest price then I take issue.

    Some people I have talked to treat the six counties as a foreign country with foreign people. The same people would still give out if an Irish contractor got the deal and employed ten or twelve non-nationals!!! I mean what do these people want? Should we just lock up everything and everyone in the North and only let them pass if they wave some money at us?

    Again hypocracy was shown when people were giving out about the salt and grit suppliers in the six counties would not put us top of the priority list. The way I see it now is that people only want and use the people of the North when it benefits themselves. They don't see that its a give and take cycle.

    What sickens me is that we have nationalists up the north who are in a statlet that doesnt want them and have a neighbour that doesnts want them either!!

    Ireland is a 32 county island with all its inhabitants being Irish. If people want to take this partitionist attitude towards our friend across the border, well I have little faith in our society.

    END OF RANT.

    While i may agree with you, in part, about the partitionist attitude, one has to ask, as someone who waves the FF banner, what do you expect?

    The government chastises and frowns upon people going north of the border, increasing the debt-burden of the beleaguered 26, and then screws us up the ass by doing just that themselves.

    If all you have to rant about is people's attitude to the 6 counties then i say you are wasting your time! You should be more concerned that 80 elected TDs supported a proven perjuror in what was both an affront to the Houses of the Oireachtas and the Republic itself.

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    DJ on Today FM yesterday morning, can't remember his name but I think he's from Mayo, was saying how, when he went to choose an Irish voice on his sat-nav and it was from Belfast he didn't consider it as really being Irish. That's an odd example to be giving but I'm just highlighting the fuked up mentality we have in this state....the fruits of partition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Ograff View Post
    After having a rather heated argument with some family members and party members regarding this I think the best way to calm myself done is a good old rant.

    I am so pissed off with peoples attitude toward the North when it comes to economics. For example yesterdays announcement from the Minister of Education regarding the schools being allowed go out for tender.

    Here (being in the border region) people go furious when a Northern Developer gets the job even if it means saving the tax payer thousands if not hundred of thousands of euro. It has happened on numerous ocassions with regard to fire stations, schools, garda stations etc. On one such ocasion I saw that a saving of almost 125,000 was made on a large scale product yet all the people could care about was not that they were getting the new facility or not that it was at a cheaper price but because it was giving money to some "foreign" company.

    It is a sad reflection when todays society has lost all decency in regards to people from the six counties. It also sickens me to see how the aspirations or even dreams of a united Ireland have dwindled all because of commercialisation.

    Yet the people are so hypocrital. They give out about the government awarding contracts at cheaper prices but they hop across the border and buy up what they can at cheaper prices. To me I have no problem with this except the shame of where the taxes end up going. But people pontificate about the poor unfortunate builder who lost out on a few months employment and yet do the local shopkeeper out of work also!!

    I have no problem providing the nation with services but if they're going to be so picky over who gets it at the cheapest price then I take issue.

    Some people I have talked to treat the six counties as a foreign country with foreign people. The same people would still give out if an Irish contractor got the deal and employed ten or twelve non-nationals!!! I mean what do these people want? Should we just lock up everything and everyone in the North and only let them pass if they wave some money at us?

    Again hypocracy was shown when people were giving out about the salt and grit suppliers in the six counties would not put us top of the priority list. The way I see it now is that people only want and use the people of the North when it benefits themselves. They don't see that its a give and take cycle.

    What sickens me is that we have nationalists up the north who are in a statlet that doesnt want them and have a neighbour that doesnts want them either!!

    Ireland is a 32 county island with all its inhabitants being Irish. If people want to take this partitionist attitude towards our friend across the border, well I have little faith in our society.

    END OF RANT.


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    Personally I couldnt care less if someone in the south thinks that the north isnt Irish.

    Theres a road near me called battle hill, Cromwell was defeated there.
    The Ulster Rebellions , the United Irishmen formed in Belfast etc are all proof that if it wasnt for the north there wouldnt even be Irish people.
    That word would be as dead as 'Celt' or 'Gael'.

    You would all be living in West Britton, just like the Tudors etc. wanted.

    Without Ulster there wouldnt be a place called Ireland and people should remeber that when they decide to idiotically judge peoples nationality on what accent they speak the English language with.
    Which sadly is exactly how a lot of people in the south judge a persons nationality.

    The Giants Causeway must be the most iconic symbol of Ireland that I can think of, yet these ignorant partitionists know so little of their history and culture that they wouldn't even recognise it as being part of Ireland.

    Other peoples ignorance doesnt annoy me, I feel sorry for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by st333ve View Post
    Personally I couldnt care less if someone in the south thinks that the north isnt Irish.
    Theres a road near me called battle hill, Cromwell was defeated there.
    The Ulster Rebellions , the United Irishmen formed in Belfast etc are all proof that if it wasnt for the north there wouldnt even be Irish people.
    That word would be as dead as 'Celt' or 'Gael'.

    You would all be living in West Britton, just like the Tudors etc. wanted.

    Without Ulster there wouldnt be a place called Ireland and people should remeber that when they decide to judge peoples nationality on what accent they speak the English language with.
    You shouldn't, most likely they are as far removed from Irish as Lake Titicaca.
    The DJ in question seems to have lost his Connaught brogue for the much more fashionable neutral Dublin south.

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    Dublin south, that would be the American accent yes?

    I always thought Dublin was full of American tourists until one day I realised that they were native.

    If I'm not Irish because I was born in the UK then Michael Collins wasnt Irish, De Valera wasnt and neither was James Connolly the man born is Scotland to Ulster parents.

    Are Brian Boru's ashes in St.Patricks Cathedral Armagh not an Irish burial place?
    Is Leslie Neeson not an Irish actor?
    Are the Gaelic hurling and football teams up here foreign?

    The more you think about these idiots the dafter they seem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Ograff View Post
    After having a rather heated argument with some family members and party members regarding this I think the best way to calm myself done is a good old rant.

    I am so pissed off with peoples attitude toward the North when it comes to economics. For example yesterdays announcement from the Minister of Education regarding the schools being allowed go out for tender.

    Here (being in the border region) people go furious when a Northern Developer gets the job even if it means saving the tax payer thousands if not hundred of thousands of euro. It has happened on numerous ocassions with regard to fire stations, schools, garda stations etc. On one such ocasion I saw that a saving of almost 125,000 was made on a large scale product yet all the people could care about was not that they were getting the new facility or not that it was at a cheaper price but because it was giving money to some "foreign" company.

    It is a sad reflection when todays society has lost all decency in regards to people from the six counties. It also sickens me to see how the aspirations or even dreams of a united Ireland have dwindled all because of commercialisation.

    Yet the people are so hypocrital. They give out about the government awarding contracts at cheaper prices but they hop across the border and buy up what they can at cheaper prices. To me I have no problem with this except the shame of where the taxes end up going. But people pontificate about the poor unfortunate builder who lost out on a few months employment and yet do the local shopkeeper out of work also!!

    I have no problem providing the nation with services but if they're going to be so picky over who gets it at the cheapest price then I take issue.

    Some people I have talked to treat the six counties as a foreign country with foreign people. The same people would still give out if an Irish contractor got the deal and employed ten or twelve non-nationals!!! I mean what do these people want? Should we just lock up everything and everyone in the North and only let them pass if they wave some money at us?

    Again hypocracy was shown when people were giving out about the salt and grit suppliers in the six counties would not put us top of the priority list. The way I see it now is that people only want and use the people of the North when it benefits themselves. They don't see that its a give and take cycle.

    What sickens me is that we have nationalists up the north who are in a statlet that doesnt want them and have a neighbour that doesnts want them either!!

    Ireland is a 32 county island with all its inhabitants being Irish. If people want to take this partitionist attitude towards our friend across the border, well I have little faith in our society.

    END OF RANT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by st333ve View Post
    Dublin south, that would be the American accent yes?

    I always thought Dublin was full of American tourists until one day I realised that they were native.
    The real D4 does sound very American sometimes. The George Lee sounding accent is south-Dublin but very neutral. Give me the Tallaght accent any day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by st333ve View Post
    Is Leslie Neeson not an Irish actor?
    Liam Neeson is now a U.S citizen apparently....Leslie Nielsen is Canadian!!

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