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    Quote Originally Posted by Estragon View Post
    Even worse we could have Gregory Campbell or Nelson McCausland running DCAL and shoving their Ulster Scots, Orange agenda down everyone else's throats and pursuing pet stadium projects in Loyalist ghettoes while never losing an opportunity to portray the GAA as the IRA at play and obstructing an Irish Language act.

    Oh!

    Is swings and roundabouts not the whole point here? I don't see why 'security' should be accorded such ludicrous priority. Put this together with Ian Paisley junior's attempts to end 50/50 recruitment and you get the very strong impression that the Duppers simply don't want papes involved in policing. Which gives lie to all the sanctimonious twaddle they spout as they talk around that particular piece of vindictive bigotry.
    If there is to be lasting peace it is essential that everyone has confidence in the administration of justice and that people have freedom from sectarian harassment. In time there will be an Irish Language Act as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mutley View Post
    So you don't agree that the SDLP have the right to voice their concerns at how Sinn Fein shafted them re the appointment of a Justice Minister?




    Oh I get it, what everyone thought was purile backbiting sincethe DUP and Sinn Fein entered into powersharing together, was actually Political substance
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    What ridiculous hysteria! Along with the usual demand to answer the question. Except you never actually asked me a question! LOL

    I repeat myself once again:
    The SDLP (and the UUP) need to make up their minds whether they are IN the Executive; or OUT of the Executive. Otherwise voters don't know what they stand for.
    No I asked you a question, and because you don't want to answer it you accuse me of Hysteria. Of course I am expecting to much to expect an original response from you, considering plagiarism may be more up your street, if your blog yesterday is anything to go by
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    With the appointment of a brand new ministry then the Executive should have been re-constituted and D'Hondt run again. In that scenario it would have been either a DUP or SF minister. It was quite clear that neither party would accept the others nomination. Thus the current compromise.
    It should be remembered that when the UUP and SDLP were in charge they, off their own bat, created two junior ministries. They didn't consult and they didn't feel the need to trigger D'Hondt. They simply took one each.
    Thus the bellyaching from the SDLP on this subject falls on deaf ears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pat Mc Larnon View Post
    With the appointment of a brand new ministry then the Executive should have been re-constituted and D'Hondt run again. In that scenario it would have been either a DUP or SF minister. It was quite clear that neither party would accept the others nomination. Thus the current compromise.
    It should be remembered that when the UUP and SDLP were in charge they, off their own bat, created two junior ministries. They didn't consult and they didn't feel the need to trigger D'Hondt. They simply took one each.
    Thus the bellyaching from the SDLP on this subject falls on deaf ears.
    Actually it only falls on Sinn Fein and their supporters deaf ears.

    You think that the Alliance have no right to this ministry and don't deserve it, so its not a great compromise to have them allocated the Ministry is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mutley View Post
    Actually it only falls on Sinn Fein and their supporters deaf ears.
    Outside of Ritchie and the small grouping who crowd around her in camera shot I don't hear too many people making a fuss.

    Quote Originally Posted by mutley View Post
    You think that the Alliance have no right to this ministry and don't deserve it, so its not a great compromise to have them allocated the Ministry is it?
    It is a sensitive ministry and the DUP would have blocked every nationalist candidate and likewise SF would have blocked every unionist candidate. This is an interim measure and Alliance holding the job is a necessary compromise.
    As for the SDLP they bellyache over 'their' ministry' that they were entitled to it. If their party colleagues in West Tyrone had not been incompetent to the point of irresponsible then they would have had a second minister 1st time round.

    Point to SDLP and their supporters, don't indulge local party bigwigs. Running 3 candidates in an area with one quote available is just plain dumb. So either runn less candidates or educate your voters in the PR system.
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    So you don't agree that the SDLP have the right to voice their concerns at how Sinn Fein shafted them re the appointment of a Justice Minister?
    So the above was meant to be a real question, was it?

    It seems more like another attempt to put words in my mouth.

    Your questions have been answered. The reasons why the SF and DUP did the deal they did on the P & J ministry has been explained more than once. The British, Irish and US governemnts have backed that deal. No matter how much the SDLP huff and puff they will not get the ministry. Simple as.

    As for blogs and plagiarising I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

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    The SDLP is in denial and fast becoming the grumpy party.
    RIRA not in my name-Traitors to Ireland MMcGuinness; People are entitled to cultural & social equality MLMcDonald; We have a length to go understanding unionism GAdams

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    Quote Originally Posted by picador View Post
    So the above was meant to be a real question, was it?

    It seems more like another attempt to put words in my mouth.

    Your questions have been answered. The reasons why the SF and DUP did the deal they did on the P & J ministry has been explained more than once. The British, Irish and US governemnts have backed that deal. No matter how much the SDLP huff and puff they will not get the ministry. Simple as.

    As for blogs and plagiarising I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
    I never said they were going to get the Ministry, my objection is that you seem to think that the SDLP should not mention it, or else resign from the executive.
    You seem to take great g.lee from hysterically demanding that the SDLP resign from the executive
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    I am not 'demanding' that they resign from the Executive. They should stop making tits of themselves though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pat Mc Larnon View Post
    Outside of Ritchie and the small grouping who crowd around her in camera shot I don't hear too many people making a fuss.
    Bit rich of a SF supporter pointing out about crowd around the leader! As SF won't back a nationalist J&P minister but instead prefer to see a Unionist Alliance Minister I wonder does SF now stand for STOOP FURTHER?

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