IRA Informers - how many were double agents.

[Cael]

The most important thing tonight is that Adams and McGuinness have got a deal on policing,There is a democratic society now in the North. John Hume played a big part in bringing peace to the North, The electorate have now in the last few elections swung behind S.F,and it now looks as if they will be the biggest party after the next election.I can understand why a few people find it hard to accept,but of coarse everyone hopes they will support the will of the people eventually.

You named yourself well turds, as that is all that comes out of you.

[meriwether]

No, but its clear that the British chose certain individuals who "they could do business with" and helped their promotion in the ranks of the IRA by killing or jailing rivals. Its ridiculous to imagine that the PIRA chief of staff, Martin McGuinness, was allowed to run the campaign from his house in Derry city - while ordinary rank and file Volunteers were having their doors kicked in, being arrested, and sent away for very long times - mostly on confessions beaten out of them. Who do you think would believe that?

Who was killed so Adams and McGuinenss could asusme power?

They have been there since year dot.

This is yet more fantasy stuff. Why is the status of McGuinness's front door a point of concern now, but wasn't for IRA volunteers and supporters from 1972 to 1997?

Perhapos the British felt they could do business with Adams and McGuinness. Theyw ere right.
This does not prove they were British agents however.

And quite frankly, if they were British agents, the British have behaved in a quite schizophrenic manner.
You have at least 2 of the 7 army council members on your payroll in 1981. So what do you? You set the province on fire by refusing to accede to the hunger strikers demands.
That doesn't make a lick of sense.

[turdsl]

You named yourself well turds, as that is all that comes out of you.

How many support your prehistoric beliefs 3,or 4 on this site, nobody in the world outside, Grow up accept reality, when you have to resort to name calling we both know you have lost the argument, I expected better but I wish you well, Goodbye

[Dasayev]

Myers has shown signs of Anglophilia,e.g. his great respect for the British army in WW I, and perhaps this blinded him to the reality of what was happening during the more recent northern conflict.

Sorry, but I don't buy that, especially since he reported from the North during the 70s. In the article he says

Some years ago, I was at a dinner in the North, and the man sitting beside me was MI5. He'd read my own critical opinions on the North, and very pleasantly said to me: "You really haven't grasped what this peace process is about, have you?" WELL, I think I know now. It was as much about bringing elements of the security forces on side as it was to bring the terrorist organisations to an agreement. And if my suspicions are correct,...

Unfortunately he never elaborates on what his suspicions are.

[bogtrotter]

Sorry, but I don't buy that, especially since he reported from the North during the 70s. In the article he says

Unfortunately he never elaborates on what his suspicions are.

Was it then that he passed a brown envelope to Myers...

[Boiled Oysters Malloy]

Who was killed so Adams and McGuinenss could asusme power?

Marie Drumm for one.

Dan McCann and Jim Lynagh made a challenge to get rid of Adams and were set up and walked into SAS ambushes.

[Fraxinus_]

Who was killed so Adams and McGuinenss could asusme power?

They have been there since year dot.

This is yet more fantasy stuff. Why is the status of McGuinness's front door a point of concern now, but wasn't for IRA volunteers and supporters from 1972 to 1997?

Perhapos the British felt they could do business with Adams and McGuinness. Theyw ere right.
This does not prove they were British agents however.

And quite frankly, if they were British agents, the British have behaved in a quite schizophrenic manner.
You have at least 2 of the 7 army council members on your payroll in 1981. So what do you? You set the province on fire by refusing to accede to the hunger strikers demands.
That doesn't make a lick of sense.

The Hunger Strikes really politicized the movement. Adams could use the electoral success to show the potential in engaging with politics. From then on the politics overtook the military.

[picador]

Marie Drumm for one.

Dan McCann and Jim Lynagh made a challenge to get rid of Adams and were set up and walked into SAS ambushes.

I just wonder, have you consulted the victims relatives before making these ridiculous allegations?

[topcat4]

No, but its clear that the British chose certain individuals who "they could do business with" and helped their promotion in the ranks of the IRA by killing or jailing rivals. Its ridiculous to imagine that the PIRA chief of staff, Martin McGuinness, was allowed to run the campaign from his house in Derry city - while ordinary rank and file Volunteers were having their doors kicked in, being arrested, and sent away for very long times - mostly on confessions beaten out of them. Who do you think would believe that?

Martin McGuinness did not live in that house since the start of the troubles, this is a well known fact. Take that bloody tinfoil hat off your head.

[rant_and_rave]

The IRA may have been heavily infiltrated with paid informers but given the ease with which they were able to resume their campaign after the 1994 ceasefire, I don't think the British tax payer got value for money.