IRA Informers - how many were double agents.

[readytogo]

We know now that the father and brother of Adams were child abuser/rapists. One might ask to what lengths would he have gone to prevent this from becoming public knowledge. I think if these facts had become known in the 70s or 80s it would have destroyed the credibilty of the Adams family within Republicanism

Myers may have had a point when he said "Moreover, I believe that the British Intelligence/RUC Special Branch turned a large number of "republicans" because of their paedophilia. You don't risk your life because you're being blackmailed over a homosexual dalliance, or even because you've slipped a length to the missus of the local OC: but you probably will if accused of child rape."

[turdsl]

The most important thing tonight is that Adams and McGuinness have got a deal on policing,There is a democratic society now in the North. John Hume played a big part in bringing peace to the North, The electorate have now in the last few elections swung behind S.F,and it now looks as if they will be the biggest party after the next election.I can understand why a few people find it hard to accept,but of coarse everyone hopes they will support the will of the people eventually.

[Dasayev]

Myers writes, "and if my suspicions are correct, then some very wicked individuals were playing ducks and drakes with tthe lives,the peace and the sanity of the people of Ireland, and of the lives of police and soldiers, almost for entertainment value. Which is about as evil as it gets."

I'm glad to see the truth has finally dawned on Myers, I believe his conclusion is without doubt correct, the British had layers of informers in all the paramilitary groups.

I further agree with him that responsibility for huge numbers of murders, ostensibly carried out by paramilitaries, also rests with these high level British operatives.

Of course its not the first time in history that powerful British men have played ducks and drakes with the lives of the Irish people.

Surely Myers must have realised this a long time ago. So why is he mentioning it now?

[bogtrotter]

Surely Myers must have realised this a long time ago. So why is he mentioning it now?

I would have thought that the most likely British agents would be Myers and Harris....

[readytogo]

I would have thought that the most likely British agents would be Myers and Harris....

Editorial from Church & State No. 73

[CaptainRedbeardOfTruth]

i'm just about to start reading a book here called 'on dead ground - infiltrating the ira' by raymond gilmour. has anyone already read it?

[Angel Interceptor]

There were bound to be quite a few

7 July 1976: Two senior RUC officers were seriously injured after an IRA double agent led them to an arms dump outside Portadown. When the officers picked up one of the weapons it triggered a booby trap which detonated. One of the officers lost an arm, a leg and an eye in the explosion

Chronology of Provisional Irish Republican Army actions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Breadan O'Connor]

Surely Myers must have realised this a long time ago. So why is he mentioning it now?

Myers has shown signs of Anglophilia,e.g. his great respect for the British army in WW I, and perhaps this blinded him to the reality of what was happening during the more recent northern conflict.

[Cael]

There comes a point when you really just have to accept reality.
To say that the IRA was controlled since 1972 is borderline crazytown.

Sure they had lots of informers. And Adams and McGuinness brought them down the road of peace. But wanting peace does not make you a British agent. There is no definite correlation between the two.

The fact of the matter is that the large large majority of IRA volunteers bought in to the peace process. That is an indisputiable fact. By th elogic going on here, 85% of the IRA were British agents.

Face facts. Some Republicans wanted peace, and turned away from violence. You are not of that opinion. But it doesn't mean those former republocans were British agents.

No, but its clear that the British chose certain individuals who "they could do business with" and helped their promotion in the ranks of the IRA by killing or jailing rivals. Its ridiculous to imagine that the PIRA chief of staff, Martin McGuinness, was allowed to run the campaign from his house in Derry city - while ordinary rank and file Volunteers were having their doors kicked in, being arrested, and sent away for very long times - mostly on confessions beaten out of them. Who do you think would believe that?

[Cael]

I am extremely glad that both communities in the North now support their elected representatives and that both sides can now forward with jobs and prosperity for the future.

You sound like that little answering machine, Factual. Are you sure you are not him?