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    Quote Originally Posted by turdsl View Post
    We should all be thankful that the men of peace succeeded. the young people now can look to a bright future,
    You are glad that British agents succeeded?

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    Quote Originally Posted by turdsl View Post
    We should all be thankful that the men of peace succeeded. the young people now can look to a bright future,
    Of capitalism and occupation...Not exactly what Id call bright...

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    There comes a point when you really just have to accept reality.
    To say that the IRA was controlled since 1972 is borderline crazytown.

    Sure they had lots of informers. And Adams and McGuinness brought them down the road of peace. But wanting peace does not make you a British agent. There is no definite correlation between the two.

    The fact of the matter is that the large large majority of IRA volunteers bought in to the peace process. That is an indisputiable fact. By th elogic going on here, 85% of the IRA were British agents.

    Face facts. Some Republicans wanted peace, and turned away from violence. You are not of that opinion. But it doesn't mean those former republocans were British agents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rant_and_rave View Post
    Do we know of any IRA double agents among the ranks of the informers? Every conflict has them. There must have been some?

    EDIT - I mean agents working for the IRA but pretending to work for the British. The law of averages dictates there must have been a few.

    Kevin Myers: Wicked men played games with people's lives in North - Kevin Myers, Columnists - Independent.ie

    So the question remains: how could the IRA have had as many informers as an old abandoned house has rats, yet neither the combined efforts of the British nor the Irish governments were able to bring about a ceasefire for decades?
    Realm of the bleeding obvious they did

    - as well as having their own agents (both willing and unwilling) within the ranks of the Crown Forces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rant_and_rave View Post
    Do we know of any IRA double agents among the ranks of the informers? Every conflict has them. There must have been some?

    EDIT - I mean agents working for the IRA but pretending to work for the British. The law of averages dictates there must have been a few.

    Kevin Myers: Wicked men played games with people's lives in North - Kevin Myers, Columnists - Independent.ie

    So the question remains: how could the IRA have had as many informers as an old abandoned house has rats, yet neither the combined efforts of the British nor the Irish governments were able to bring about a ceasefire for decades?

    Myers writes, "and if my suspicions are correct, then some very wicked individuals were playing ducks and drakes with tthe lives,the peace and the sanity of the people of Ireland, and of the lives of police and soldiers, almost for entertainment value. Which is about as evil as it gets."

    I'm glad to see the truth has finally dawned on Myers, I believe his conclusion is without doubt correct, the British had layers of informers in all the paramilitary groups.

    I further agree with him that responsibility for huge numbers of murders, ostensibly carried out by paramilitaries, also rests with these high level British operatives.

    Of course its not the first time in history that powerful British men have played ducks and drakes with the lives of the Irish people.

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    Sammy Wilson told a nice joke recently.

    Gerry Adams has become a bit of a tree hugger recently.
    Which is hardly surprising as all his friends wanted to talk to the Special Branch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cael View Post
    You are glad that British agents succeeded?

    I am extremely glad that both communities in the North now support their elected representatives and that both sides can now forward with jobs and prosperity for the future.

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    is/was there ever much suspicion that Adams is/was an informer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by readytogo View Post
    is/was there ever much suspicion that Adams is/was an informer?



    We know now that the father and brother of Adams were child abuser/rapists. One might ask to what lengths would he have gone to prevent this from becoming public knowledge. I think if these facts had become known in the 70s or 80s it would have destroyed the credibilty of the Adams family within Republicanism

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