I would say that the story of this election has been the gathering of the clans around one flag, it will be interesting if the clans will separate again or is this the new order?
I would say that the story of this election has been the gathering of the clans around one flag, it will be interesting if the clans will separate again or is this the new order?
Romanticist 75%, Fundamentalist 69%, Idealist 63%, Cultural Creative 63%, Postmodernist 56%, Modernist 44%, Existentialist 44%, Materialist 19%
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1.2%. That was without disaggregating RSF. Given that McGeough, O'Hara and Hyland were the three most 'successful' Disso candidates, RSF's vote is - hold on, let me calculate...Originally Posted by Trefor
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Left-Right +0.5; Authoritarian-Libertarian -7.7.
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"Thank you STV for pimping my vote"
[quote=Sammy Morse]1.2%. That was without disaggregating RSF. Given that McGeough, O'Hara and Hyland were the three most 'successful' Disso candidates, RSF's vote is - hold on, let me calculate...Originally Posted by Trefor
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Not very high then.
Poni welwch chwi hynt y gwynt a'r glaw?
Poni welwch chi'r deri'n ymdaraw?
Sinn Féin can teach every other political party in Ireland the effectiveness of a few motivated individuals to mobilise the vote, and not only that, to use the voting system to its greatest advantage.
Some of us in other Organisations have learned those lessons. :wink:
SF's key to success in the Six is that it has presented its own perspective on the Long War to its younger members in an attractive way that some of us longer in the tooth who remember some of the more sordid bits of that war would disagree with, but hey, that's politics.
No-one in this business we call show should seek sympathy with the electorate on the way the "Meeja" presents us.
It is our job to present ourselves, personally, to the electorate one by one. Let the People decide and let their decision fall where it will. If we present our case, get registered ourselves and our supporters registered in time and get them to vote then we as politicians will have succeeded.
If not, we won't. That's life. No amount of 103 year olds (and yes, we in Fine Gael were very proud to have a War of Independence veteran with us until very recently) will insulate any of us from fighting an effective campaign with a message that resonates with what voters want for Ireland.
In these circumstances, what would Michael Collins do?
RSF never pull out of anything and the only thing they shoot is their load.Originally Posted by chiffon rouge
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Nill illigitimi carborundum - don't let the b*stards get you down.
Economic Left/Right: -4.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.36
Bogwarrior wrote
"no-one here is going to convince me there are only 427 anti-State Republicans in West Belfast."
No, nobody here is trying to convince you of that fact...Its the decision of the electorate.
Despite all the excuses, 'the media', 'not registered', etc etc ad nauseam....
Perhaps its just this simple...Ordinary working class nationalists think that the whole lot of ye the RSF, the 32's, Gerry McGeough etc are just downright wrong.
Everyone in the 26 Counties know your arguments, know who you are, know what party's/groups ye represent, the single 'uncomfortable truth' which you fail to be able to grasp is that you have LOST the argument, and that the voters are more in sympathy with Sinn Féin's analysis of how things are, because it ties in more closely with perceptions of reality from people who are practical and realistic, rather than the thoroughly hide bound and inflexible republican alternatives.
Sorry that should have read the 'Six Counties'......apologies
How many of PSF's voters anr Anti State, anti PSNI but still voted for the party?. Are you suggesting everyone in West Belfast supports the PSNI apart from 427 people. Do you even understand the point I was making? Failure amongst Republicans to put forward an agreed candidate, and the late arrival(4 weeks prior) of the RSF candidate led to the low vote, and the failure to woo anti State voters from within your party. Nobody here is claiming things are better than they are. Lessons I'm sure will be learned from this election, more people will get registered, more thought put into candidates, electioneering will start probably as of yesterday. Wipe that smirk off your face, put your cock away, and calm down. It's all premature on your part.Jesus, not even Pogo or the resident Loyalists are gloating as much as you.Originally Posted by caractacus
Just 1 gram of cocaine destroys 4m2 of tropical rainforest. Give it up ya selfish b'stards.
Bogwarrior wrote
"Wipe that smirk off your face"
Sorry, I can not do that, you lot have asked for this for so long now, with your constant needling at Sinn Féin posters, with your permanently self righteous po-faced tones., with your snide innuendoes about our leadership, and your holier than though pontificating about being the true inheritors of the republican legacy.
He also wrote, 'put your cock away'....
Wow! you really can not take it can you.... 8)