Will there be a deal done on Policing and Justice soon?

[mutley]

This is not a Nationalist wish list Item, so how did the situation arise that the DUP held back on it to get some goodies.
I could understand it if it was the Irish Language Act, or some sort of Nationalist Item.
Did the DUP realise how much Sinn Fein wanted it, and tried to chance their arm?

I'm glad Sinn Fein did not give in to their demands.

Is there anyone else concerned about the PPW for ex security forces?
What is the actual threat from dissident Republicans, and does anyone else think this is a way to arm the UNionists in the event of a UI?

[tiocfaidh]

Sinn Féin should hold their ground especially on parading.

Let the electorate give their opinion on DUP shenanigans and excessive expensive claiming.

If the DUP want to bring down the Assembly over marching down a few particular roads then let them do it.

Sinn Féin have nothing to fear from new Assembly elections and they may become the largest party with the entitlement to nominate the First Minister.

It is time to find out once and for all if Unionists are willing to partake in power sharing on an inclusive and equality basis.

Let the electorate give their opinion.

I agree. An election would really be the moment of truth for unionists. Every unionist would have to choose whether he was casting a vote for a civilised society or for an affirmation of neanderthal thuggery. Sadly I do not know how it would come out. I wish I could confidently say the DUP would take a thumping, but I don't know....so many of their voters are so backwards that I wouldn't be surprised to see them return the same shower of bigots once again.

[tiocfaidh]

Adams speaks
Léargas

I think SF has done the right thing here, and it's nice to see all shades of republicans/nationalists on this site acknowledging that. Myself and many others have criticised PSF many times on here, but today Pat and Factual and the others shinners can be proud that their party has refused to back down. Nice to read these words from Gerry:

"The time has long passed for the transfer of powers on policing and justice. There can be no preconditions to that. Not on the Parades Commission; not on marches; not on equality and partnership government."

[blinding]

I think SF has done the right thing here, and it's nice to see all shades of republicans/nationalists on this site acknowledging that. Myself and many others have criticised PSF many times on here, but today Pat and Factual and the others shinners can be proud that their party has refused to back down. Nice to read these words from Gerry:

"The time has long passed for the transfer of powers on policing and justice. There can be no preconditions to that. Not on the Parades Commission; not on marches; not on equality and partnership government."

Sinn Féin are correct to stand their ground. Lets see if the DUP in particular want the Electorate to give their view on the Robinsons shenanigans and excesssive expenses pilfering from the DUP.

[alan1122]

great to see SF standing their ground, on behalf of their electorate.
This matter was a real test of unionist committment to the whole power sharing experiment. They think they will be the power breakers at the next Brit election, and that may be the case, but are they interested in working the the rest of the people on this Island, not a chance, and now the world knows.Again, well done SF.

[st333ve]

SF need to strike soon, if they can get an election asap then they need to go for it.

[Pat Mc Larnon]

SF need to strike soon, if they can get an election asap then they need to go for it.

Agreed.

[mutley]

This will all come down to sectarianism.

The DUP want the disgraceful bigot march through the Garvaghy road in return for devolution powers.

If SF give them that they are finished, Portadown is a twisted Loyalist hell hole and those scumbags should be kept away from the Garvaghy road to leave those people in peace.

Well St333ve after your inane ramblings re Potadown, it was with much trepidation that I went to work for there for the first time a few weeks ago, and I have to say a better set of people I could not hope to meet, I was paranoid about my accent in shops, no need the people were as friendly as anything.
I was prepared for suspision from co workers due to where I came from. Looks like I was the paranoid one.

[mutley]

So after all the scandal with Iris Robinson, and talk of the collapse of Stormont,things seemed to have settled down considerably and its looks as if a deal might be done on P&J,
But what is the price if any? Will Sinn Fein be ae able to soley use the leverage that the DUP don't want an election anytime soon, or will the DUP hold out and get the parades issue sorted out to their liking?

The talks seem still to be centered round both Parades and Policing and Justice still. My guess is that the DUP will get their way re the Parades issue.

This begs the question, what would the Nationalist People prefer to see, the devolution on P&J and the DUP getting their way on parading? Or would they rather that contensious parades where done away with, at the cost of not getting Policing and justice resolved for the time being?

If concessions are made to the DUP re parading, how will this be packaged up and sold to the Nationalist electorate? And why is the Devolution of Policing and Justice so important now? Is this for the benefit of the Nationalist community as a whole, or simply to keep the Republican Sinn Fein supporters on board?

Personally I would rather have contensious parades abandoned altogether, and if Sinn Fein have the DUP over a barrel, I can't help thinking that their advantage would be better put to use to deal with parading once and for all, imstead of making concessions on it.

IF Sinn Fein can get P&J devolved, without any concesssion on the parades issue, I take my hat of to them

Looks as if my original opinion was correct