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    Quote Originally Posted by Katayusha Mk2 View Post
    File is leaked from ministerial department to shinner-linked journalist who decides to publish. People's lives are put at risk. Do you think he would not at least have run the decision by his comrades in Sevastopol St?
    So once again you are unable to advance any evidence for your theory other than the fact that the journalist once worked for the Andersonstown News. I thought as much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by picador View Post
    So once again you are unable to advance any evidence for your theory other than the fact that the journalist once worked for the Andersonstown News. I thought as much.
    I'll type this reeeeeaaaaalllllly slowly in the hope that it might penetrate the self-imposed veil of ignorance.

    The file was leaked from a ministerial office at Stormont.

    It was leaked to a shinner-linked journalist.

    It would certainly not have been published without shinner approval.

    They had to have known about it prior to publication.

    It is most likely that the files were leaked from within a shinner ministerial office.

    What part of this are you unable or unwilling to comprehend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katayusha Mk2 View Post
    I'll type this reeeeeaaaaalllllly slowly in the hope that it might penetrate the self-imposed veil of ignorance.

    1. The file was leaked from a ministerial office at Stormont.

    2. It was leaked to a shinner-linked journalist.

    3. It would certainly not have been published without shinner approval.

    4. They had to have known about it prior to publication.

    5. It is most likely that the files were leaked from within a shinner ministerial office.

    What part of this are you unable or unwilling to comprehend?

    I have numbered your points.

    1. Security (a.k.a. Policing and Justice) is still the responsibility of the Northern Ireland Office and not the Executive

    2. The document was leaked to the Sunday Life, which is part of the unionist leaning Belfast Telegraph group (a subsidiary of Independent Newspapers). The journalist who wrote the story was formerly employed by a newspaper that is strongly sympathetic to Sinn Féin

    3. Total speculation

    4. Total speculation

    5. Total speculation

    Now stop presenting your theories as fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by picador View Post
    I have numbered your points.

    1. Security (a.k.a. Policing and Justice) is still the responsibility of the Northern Ireland Office and not the Executive
    Ken Maginness produced targeting files in the house of commons in 1988 when such matters were the responsibility of direct rulers. There is the precedence for the passage of information to 'friendly' politicians.

    As with the hunger strike debate, where you also spoke of 'fanciful theories' before skulking off in disarray after numerous turnarounds and lies, your views are coloured by your political loyalties and very obvious agenda. Yes, we know, you aren't a shinner and Gerry was never in the RA. Did you ever wonder why you are left to be the sole standard bearer on these difficult issues which the boys with the shinner avatars avoid like the plague. You're a somewhat useful idiot Picador; but your transparency and lack of integrity, which has been exposed time and again, highlight the level of desperation in the shinner camp. They shouldn't be touching you with a bargepole but PatMcL cheers you on from the sidelines....desperate times and all that I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katayusha Mk2 View Post
    Ken Maginness produced targeting files in the house of commons in 1988 when such matters were the responsibility of direct rulers. There is the precedence for the passage of information to 'friendly' politicians.

    As with the hunger strike debate, where you also spoke of 'fanciful theories' before skulking off in disarray after numerous turnarounds and lies, your views are coloured by your political loyalties and very obvious agenda. Yes, we know, you aren't a shinner and Gerry was never in the RA. Did you ever wonder why you are left to be the sole standard bearer on these difficult issues which the boys with the shinner avatars avoid like the plague. You're a somewhat useful idiot Picador; but your transparency and lack of integrity, which has been exposed time and again, highlight the level of desperation in the shinner camp. They shouldn't be touching you with a bargepole but PatMcL cheers you on from the sidelines....desperate times and all that I suppose.
    Your case is rubbished. Cue the usual abuse combined with a dose of paranoia. Both laughable and predictable!

    BTW if you genuinely believed this article was libel then why did you propagate it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by picador View Post
    Your case is rubbished. Cue the usual abuse combined with a dose of paranoia. Both laughable and predictable!
    Projection again. I have outlined a logical argument backed with circumstantial evidence and as usual you have waffled in an effort to support your normalisation buddies.

    Quote Originally Posted by picador View Post
    BTW if you genuinely believed this article was libel then why did you propagate it?
    Simple, the article was already published and had received a wide 6 county viewing. I wanted to expose the underhand nature of shinner collaboration with British intelligence and the rotten system whereby such things can be published in the state-friendly media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katayusha Mk2 View Post
    Simple, the article was already published and had received a wide 6 county viewing. I wanted to expose the underhand nature of shinner collaboration with British intelligence and the rotten system whereby such things can be published in the state-friendly media.
    LOL. You propagated the story so that others - like myself included - would learn the identities of these men and the allegations against them. Ergo you musn't really believe the article is a libel.

    I suspect you don't really believe the shinner plot claims either - because, as has been demonstrated, you don't have evidence to back them up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by picador View Post
    LOL. You propagated the story so that others - like myself included - would learn the identities of these men and the allegations against them. Ergo you musn't really believe the article is a libel.
    What we say around these parts is 'yer hole'.

    Quote Originally Posted by picador View Post
    I suspect you don't really believe the shinner plot claims either - because, as has been demonstrated, you don't have evidence to back them up.
    Yeah I just threw it out there for the craic with all the personal risk that it entails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katayusha Mk2 View Post
    Yeah I just threw it out there for the craic with all the personal risk that it entails.
    Please Katayusha, put on a bulletproof jacket before you post again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by picador View Post
    Please Katayusha, put on a bulletproof jacket before you post again!
    Speaking your mind when it counters the establishment narrative in a police state always carries risks. A prancing, posturing muppet like yourself with no grounding or background in Republicanism or real understanding of it is unlikely to understand. But the threat is real, the shinners have picketed peoples' homes, battered, abducted, intimidated and murdered political opponents before they became an open functionary of the state security apparatus. Who's to say what lengths they will or will be prepared to go to for the sake of desperate self-preservation.
    Last edited by Katayusha Mk2; 6th December 2009 at 03:29 PM.

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