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    Quote Originally Posted by picador View Post
    You guys are paid to believe every word of it. So I won't try to stop you.
    Very weak pic lad, very weak.
    Such a shoddy article, according to you, and you cant even begin to explain why. Just smear and hope it sticks eh.
    As I said it is you introducing the dishonest spin.

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    Start with the title 'The Facts of the Hunger Strike Have Already Been Established' and then listen to the spin unfold (in an American accent). This is what Ms Twomey and her associates would like the truth to be. Unfortunately it overly dependent on assumptions of one thing that was missing at the time - British good faith. After five years on prison protest Brendan Hughes knew all about their bad faith. I'd recommend to anyone open-minded on the issue that they read more of what he has written and not just the convenient little snippet Ms Twomey has presented here. IIRC Hughes felt terribly guilty that the first hunger strike had not resolved the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by picador View Post
    Start with the title 'The Facts of the Hunger Strike Have Already Been Established' and then listen to the spin unfold (in an American accent).
    It gets weaker by the post. Keep digging. It amuses me to see you squirm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by picador View Post
    You guys are paid to believe every word of it. So I won't try to stop you.
    Desperation immediately followed by contradiction. You're a star Picador, a real star. Do you moonlight as Darkangel or is s/he a colleague assigned to the same task group?

    Quote Originally Posted by picador View Post
    Start with the title 'The Facts of the Hunger Strike Have Already Been Established' and then listen to the spin unfold (in an American accent).
    Does her place of birth bother you, are you a racist, is the wife of a Blanketman, who lived through the hunger strike in the prison, and confidante of people like Brendan Hughes and Dixie Elliot (who shared a cell with Bobby Sands) not entitled to an opinion?

    Quote Originally Posted by picador View Post
    This is what Ms Twomey and her associates would like the truth to be. Unfortunately it overly dependent on assumptions of one thing that was missing at the time - British good faith. After five years on prison protest Brendan Hughes knew all about their bad faith. I'd recommend to anyone open-minded on the issue that they read more of what he has written and not just the convenient little snippet Ms Twomey has presented here. IIRC Hughes felt terribly guilty that the first hunger strike had not resolved the issue.
    You have yet to refute a single question raised by those who wish to see a hunger strike inquiry, indeed you have disingeniusly backed up many of the questions in your self-contradictory posturing. Now you are invoking the name of Brendan Hughes, whom you are unlikely to have ever known and you expect your alleged recollections of what you think he might have said to be considered more valid than Ms Twomey's properly sourced quotations.

    Surely there is somebody in the office a bit more capable. You're only an embarrassment to yourself and those whom you claim not to represent.

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    Question. How can someone troll 'all day' throwing mud as Kat does unless they are paid from ahigh to do so?? As I've said before. Kat is a paid MI5 troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katayusha Mk2 View Post
    Desperation immediately followed by contradiction. You're a star Picador, a real star. Do you moonlight as Darkangel or is s/he a colleague assigned to the same task group?
    You guys are paid to believe every word of it. So I won't try to stop you (from believing it)

    I hope this resolves any contradiction for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Katayusha Mk2 View Post
    Does her place of birth bother you, are you a racist, is the wife of a Blanketman, who lived through the hunger strike in the prison, and confidante of people like Brendan Hughes and Dixie Elliot (who shared a cell with Bobby Sands) not entitled to an opinion?
    But she is not merely expressing an opinion. She is telling us the facts (guffaw).


    Quote Originally Posted by Katayusha Mk2 View Post
    You have yet to refute a single question raised by those who wish to see a hunger strike inquiry, indeed you have disingeniusly backed up many of the questions in your self-contradictory posturing. Now you are invoking the name of Brendan Hughes, whom you are unlikely to have ever known and you expect your alleged recollections of what you think he might have said to be considered more valid than Ms Twomey's properly sourced quotations.
    Ms Twomey invoked Brendan Hughes not I. His articles appear on a website she formerly edited. I don't question Ms Twomey's nationality, merely her political agenda. Nobody forced her husband to join the Provos. Nobody could guarantee him a united Ireland. Nobody forced him to shoot anyone.

    Those who wish to conduct this witch-hunt, are in the main, those who wish to prove, irrespective of evidence that no document containing the terms of a proposed deal was ever forthcoming from the British, that Gerry Adams starved 6 men to death in order to get himself elected, sell out the armed struggle and secure a book deal. They are a bitter bunch of malcontents who cannot accept that they largely failed in what they set out to do.
    Last edited by picador; 18th November 2009 at 06:44 PM. Reason: containing

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    Picador, it's pointless debating with these Brit trolls. They are just twisted little people who get paid to throw mud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the dark angel View Post
    Picador, it's pointless debating with these Brit trolls. They are just twisted little people who get paid to throw mud.
    they shoule throw ********************e an all the shinners would think it was a statue of jimmy sands!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by picador View Post
    You guys are paid to believe every word of it. So I won't try to stop you (from believing it)

    I hope this resolves any contradiction for you.
    Resolves any lingering doubts in regard to your integrity and credibility.

    Quote Originally Posted by picador View Post
    But she is not merely expressing an opinion. She is telling us the facts (guffaw).
    And yet you lack the credibilty and integrity to dispute any of her account in a reasonable manner.

    Quote Originally Posted by picador View Post
    Ms Twomey invoked Brendan Hughes not I. His articles appear on a website she formerly edited. I don't question Ms Twomey's nationality, merely her political agenda. Nobody forced her husband to join the Provos. Nobody could guarantee him a united Ireland. Nobody forced him to shoot anyone.
    What's the point of this crap? You were slabbering about what you think you remember Brendan Hughes saying but you can't link to it because yet again you have been shown to be a spineless liar.

    Quote Originally Posted by picador View Post
    Those who wish to conduct this witch-hunt, are in the main, those who wish to prove, irrespective of evidence that no document containing the terms of a proposed deal was ever forthcoming from the British,
    Wrong, Adams and McGuinness had the draft copy of the offer. It's actually the shinners who have been trying to dispute the existance of an offer. Do try and keep up.

    Quote Originally Posted by picador View Post
    that Gerry Adams starved 6 men to death in order to get himself elected, sell out the armed struggle and secure a book deal. They are a bitter bunch of malcontents who cannot accept that they largely failed in what they set out to do.
    You contradict yourself and undermine your own argument and lie incessently. In the abscence of any credible understanding of the issue or coherent argument you have merely insult and allegation.

    Yet Pat McL the resident shinner spokesentity sees fit to draw on your support. It's a funny auld world hi...weewoo, weewoo, weewoo, weewoo.

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    Listen to yourself, Mr Integrity.

    By 'draft' I assume you mean a verbal communication emanating from spooks. That does not constitute a draft document. It constitutes a verbal communication emanating spooks and as such is deniable. Perhaps no one has told you that a verbal agreement is not worth the paper it's written on.

    Twomey's letter even says the British were not prepared to give the RM sight of any document until the very last minute - by which time they presumably would have briefed the world's media that the hunger strike was off. The words 'elephant trap' spring to mind.

    Now really, this is amateur stuff.
    Last edited by picador; 18th November 2009 at 08:21 PM. Reason: elephant trap

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