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    Its already established then that the unionists will not work with SF, So do you blame SF for this or are you voting to appease the unionists, to give them someone to work with.
    Oh and who do you vote for if that little arrangement does'nt work out ?.

    The SF strategy to divide and undermine the basis of unionism is perhaps the only recognisable part of the original "bill of sale " of the GFA, that is working a treat.

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    Unionists are going into failure mode yet again.

    It is their default position.

    The world moves on but Unionism continues to fail.

    The Unionists believe that they can always fall back to direct rule.

    They fail to recognise that a large percentage of the electorate are prepared to make devolution work.

    It is a narrow club of Unionist politicians that prefer continued failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blinding View Post
    Unionists are going into failure mode yet again.

    It is their default position.

    The world moves on but Unionism continues to fail.

    The Unionists believe that they can always fall back to direct rule.

    They fail to recognise that a large percentage of the electorate are prepared to make devolution work.

    It is a narrow club of Unionist politicians that prefer continued failure.
    Agree with you there, the question I suppose is, where now for SF and the GFA. The GFA is rendered useless without the co-operation of the DUP/UUP.
    This leaves SF sitting very uncomfortable in regards to the republican community.The anti GFA republicans will have a field day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alan1122 View Post
    Its already established then that the unionists will not work with SF, So do you blame SF for this or are you voting to appease the unionists, to give them someone to work with.
    Oh and who do you vote for if that little arrangement does'nt work out ?.

    The SF strategy to divide and undermine the basis of unionism is perhaps the only recognisable part of the original "bill of sale " of the GFA, that is working a treat.
    No I don't blame Sinn Fein for this, nor do I think that is a Sinn Fein strategy to divide and undemine the basis of Unionism.
    The very existence of Sinn Fein in government is what is dividing Unionism ie their presence not any strategy of theirs.

    Whats the point of voting for a party who through no real fault of their own cannot get Stormont to work?


    and just to clarify, my reason for voting SDLP next time round is simply down to the arrogance of Pat McLaron of Sinn Fein, and I will be persuading as many people as I know in real life to also vote SDLP because of this arrogance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mutley View Post
    So what are you saying that we should vote for Sinn Fein as there is no alternative?
    I'll be voting for SDLP, Unionists will work with them


    You can be sure the Unionists would work with the S,D.L.P. because Durkans party is losing votes at every election in other words they are a beaten docket, All S,F has to do at the moment is sit tight, Unionism is
    splitting up and does not know which way to turn,Adams and McGuinness have enough experience on how to get over this crisis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mutley View Post
    No I don't blame Sinn Fein for this, nor do I think that is a Sinn Fein strategy to divide and undemine the basis of Unionism.
    The very existence of Sinn Fein in government is what is dividing Unionism ie their presence not any strategy of theirs.

    Whats the point of voting for a party who through no real fault of their own cannot get Stormont to work?


    and just to clarify, my reason for voting SDLP next time round is simply down to the arrogance of Pat McLaron of Sinn Fein, and I will be persuading as many people as I know in real life to also vote SDLP because of this arrogance.
    So thats 2 reasons, And to enter stormont was a strategic move by SF and a predicted result of this strategic move was the division of unionism and to undermine them. It seems to me to be achieving that.


    "listen, would you please vote for the SDLP because i find that Pat Mc Laron a fierce arrogant bloke,like will ye? ye know ,he's very arrogant."

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    Quote Originally Posted by mutley View Post
    No I don't blame Sinn Fein for this, nor do I think that is a Sinn Fein strategy to divide and undemine the basis of Unionism.
    The very existence of Sinn Fein in government is what is dividing Unionism ie their presence not any strategy of theirs.

    Whats the point of voting for a party who through no real fault of their own cannot get Stormont to work?


    and just to clarify, my reason for voting SDLP next time round is simply down to the arrogance of Pat McLaron of Sinn Fein, and I will be persuading as many people as I know in real life to also vote SDLP because of this arrogance.

    If your persuasive skills are as convincing as you reliance of the rumours and innuendo of jdaly you will be as successful a vote getter as Alex Attwood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pat Mc Larnon View Post
    If your persuasive skills are as convincing as you reliance of the rumours and innuendo of jdaly you will be as successful a vote getter as Alex Attwood.
    And your thoughts on the thread are ??????

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    Quote Originally Posted by alan1122 View Post
    So thats 2 reasons, And to enter stormont was a strategic move by SF and a predicted result of this strategic move was the division of unionism and to undermine them. It seems to me to be achieving that.


    "listen, would you please vote for the SDLP because i find that Pat Mc Laron a fierce arrogant bloke,like will ye? ye know ,he's very arrogant."

    These strategies, are they facts or your opinion?
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    I believe that SF has always had a strategy to expose the intransigence and bigotry of unionism, and to display this for the outside world to view.
    Part of the selling of the GFA was that once SF got to stormont this would be done, and we are seeing the results of this now.

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