Will the DUP agree to transfer of policing and justice before SF's christmas deadline

[alan1122]

Now thats a bit depressing pic.! the "well sure it'll be alright and don't you be worrying yerself about it all" attitude just can't last. Expectations we're too high ! Well I certainly did'nt think we'd be talking about the unionists veto in 2009/10. but here we are, and the veto is alive and well.

And the no gunmen or bombers is, well.............

[picador]

Now thats a bit depressing pic.! the "well sure it'll be alright and don't you be worrying yerself about it all" attitude just can't last. Expectations we're too high ! Well I certainly did'nt think we'd be talking about the unionists veto in 2009/10. but here we are, and the veto is alive and well.

And the no gunmen or bombers is, well.............

Unfortunately you're misrepresenting what I actually said!

[alan1122]

Accepted, but it does show up the fact that its becoming a tad ad hoc. As i asked, is it a case that its not only the DUP thats wary of elections due to the emergence of the TUV

[Katayusha Mk2]

Why call SF quislings? When you take into account the amount of pain and suffering that SF members endured right up to the mid nineties. I agree , British rule has no place in Ireland, and the fight to bring it to an end is a noble and just cause, not furthered one iota by the divisions in the republican community.Infact the only ones to benefit from such are the enemies of ireland

Do you think that the people who gave their lives did so for Stormont? In an act akin to Vikund Quisling the shinners went into open collaboration with the occupier in efforts to nornalise the occupation. You may take issue with the Quisling terminology but you can't very well describe their activities as Republican.

When asked what your strategy you invariably start by saying what you think PSF should do. Why look to a bunch of 'quislings' when you could be busy developing your own strategy?

I don't claim to represent the Republican constituency, PSF do. If they would start acting like Republicans then the dynamic would alter critically.

[alan1122]

Do you think that the people who gave their lives did so for Stormont? In an act akin to Vikund Quisling the shinners went into open collaboration with the occupier in efforts to nornalise the occupation. You may take issue with the Quisling terminology but you can't very well describe their activities as Republican.



I don't claim to represent the Republican constituency, PSF do. If they would start acting like Republicans then the dynamic would alter critically.

I would wager that the likes of you never gave up a night on your sofa ,for anything.
There are volunteers who are at the present moment supportive of the peace strategy and volunteers against. and way down the list are arse holes like you who can only slag off and denigrate those volunteers who have chosen to try this process.

[picador]

Accepted, but it does show up the fact that its becoming a tad ad hoc.

Could you be more specific.

As i asked, is it a case that its not only the DUP thats wary of elections due to the emergence of the TUV

The London and Dublin governments might be a tad concerned.

[picador]

I don't claim to represent the Republican constituency, PSF do. If they would start acting like Republicans then the dynamic would alter critically.

Come now. You're on here regularly banging on about Sinn Féin selling out and about what a great republican, sorry Republican, you are.

Anyway it seems to me you're like the bride still waiting at the altar while the groom is on honeymoon with the bridesmaid.

[alan1122]

Could you be more specific.



The London and Dublin governments might be a tad concerned.

I had SF in mind. A complete unravelling of the Gfa would surely be on the cards if the TUV emerged as a force after an election. (there is no glee attached)
as a republican, I recognised the demand from the people to attempt a new way forward, and respected that decision.
The sucess of the GFA was always a gamble, something SF will agree with.
The British Gov, are once again the divils in all this. There would be a transfer of P&J if the will was there in London town. ITs not there, and they've nothing to fear, from a breakdown in the political process.
2009 , Canary Wharf is safe.

[Katayusha Mk2]

I would wager that the likes of you never gave up a night on your sofa ,for anything.

Then your financial judgement is as impaired as your political judgement.

There are volunteers who are at the present moment supportive of the peace strategy and volunteers against. and way down the list are arse holes like you who can only slag off and denigrate those volunteers who have chosen to try this process.

Pathetic, personal insult and an attempt to label those who oppose the British normalisation strategy as being opposed to peace. Around here, the vast majority of former Volunteers are now totally opposed to PSF collaborationism and cummans have folded left right and centre. All the snarling and insults won't change that or clothe the naked emperor.

[picador]

I had SF in mind. A complete unravelling of the Gfa would surely be on the cards if the TUV emerged as a force after an election. (there is no glee attached)
as a republican, I recognised the demand from the people to attempt a new way forward, and respected that decision.
The sucess of the GFA was always a gamble, something SF will agree with.
The British Gov, are once again the divils in all this. There would be a transfer of P&J if the will was there in London town. ITs not there, and they've nothing to fear, from a breakdown in the political process.
2009 , Canary Wharf is safe.

Brown has no authority. Labour is a busted flush. Thus Robinson is prevaricating. Ultimately it's up to the Tories to pull the Robinson into line and it's up to Dublin to insist that they do. Plan B should be resurrected.

An early Stormont election is in both SF's and Robinson's interests in my own view. SF are the aggrieved party. Robinson can portray himself as tough. Waiting until after the Westminister election risks handing the initiative to Allister (MP?) and other extremists.