Water Charges

[JCSkinner]

[size=7]Can we puh-lease return to the issue of the NI party positions on the imminent double taxation charges in the North? Pretty please?
Perhaps opening a separate thread on the issue of whether it is moral to charge for critical services might satisfy those who wish to debate that.
My interest in opening this thread was to establish the positions of the NI parties on this issue, currently and in the past.[/size]

[Kevin Doyle]

Can we puh-lease return to the issue of the NI party positions on the imminent double taxation charges in the North? Pretty please?
Perhaps opening a separate thread on the issue of whether it is moral to charge for critical services might satisfy those who wish to debate that.
My interest in opening this thread was to establish the positions of the NI parties on this issue, currently and in the past.

Apologies JCSkinner.

On the actual point of the thread, down here SF are opposed to Water Charges as they have repeatedly voted against them at local Council level, so I assume that as they are island wide they would have that position in the north.

You would have more insight into the SDLP's position than me.

I would imagine the DUP and UUP being RW would have no problem with the charges

I had thought that the rates issue was a stick Hain was using to beat SF and the DUP into power sharing.

[Pax]

In fairness JC,is there much actual unionists posting here, as opposed to southern trolls?

And I don't see any, northern based or not, Sinn Fein posters discussing their position here in any depth. In fact the only comments were on the first page and all rarther disappointed in SF's meekness, such as Ireland2007's.

Why is it that Sinn Féin are reluctant to get behind a non-payment scheme? Fecking ridiculous... back in the day they'd have been the first to call for it.

Edit to add: Also this might be useful...

Three parties right, one party 'left' (Eamonn McCann, Belfast Telegraph)

[JCSkinner]

There are a few. I'm also still waiting on Sinn Fein to clarify their historical position and their current one, and the SDLP to do likewise.
Also, I'd have expected that perhaps some of the grass roots opposition to such charges might lurk in here from time to time.
I'm also interested in knowing whether the dissident republicans have a position on this at all.
But I doubt any of the above will be posting when they see four pages of shyte about the morality of charging for water. If people want to debate that, the open thread button is terribly easy to use. Go use it.

[martin TYRONE]

Bills bills and more bills

[Kevin Doyle]

There are a few. I'm also still waiting on Sinn Fein to clarify their historical position and their current one, and the SDLP to do likewise.
Also, I'd have expected that perhaps some of the grass roots opposition to such charges might lurk in here from time to time.
I'm also interested in knowing whether the dissident republicans have a position on this at all.
But I doubt any of the above will be posting when they see four pages of shyte about the morality of charging for water. If people want to debate that, the open thread button is terribly easy to use. Go use it.

Here.. I apologised, Now what the ************************ is your problem?

[JCSkinner]

There are a few. I'm also still waiting on Sinn Fein to clarify their historical position and their current one, and the SDLP to do likewise.
Also, I'd have expected that perhaps some of the grass roots opposition to such charges might lurk in here from time to time.
I'm also interested in knowing whether the dissident republicans have a position on this at all.
But I doubt any of the above will be posting when they see four pages of shyte about the morality of charging for water. If people want to debate that, the open thread button is terribly easy to use. Go use it.

Here.. I apologised, Now what the ************************ is your problem?

No problem. I was simply suggesting that if people are animated about the discussion that hijacked this thread, they might want to open a separate thread on it.

[Kevin Doyle]

There are a few. I'm also still waiting on Sinn Fein to clarify their historical position and their current one, and the SDLP to do likewise.
Also, I'd have expected that perhaps some of the grass roots opposition to such charges might lurk in here from time to time.
I'm also interested in knowing whether the dissident republicans have a position on this at all.
But I doubt any of the above will be posting when they see four pages of shyte about the morality of charging for water. If people want to debate that, the open thread button is terribly easy to use. Go use it.

Here.. I apologised, Now what the ************************ is your problem?

No problem. I was simply suggesting that if people are animated about the discussion that hijacked this thread, they might want to open a separate thread on it.

Thats fair enough. I shouldn't have been strung along.