English people who support a UI?

[SevenStars]

That hostility is far more likely to have come from the opposite direction. If anything, that is the reality of that particular occupation. And that is my first-hand experience, having spent many, many weekends with a couple of friends, and one of my brothers, who all studied at Cardiff Uni.

Get a life man, and stop boring people with your unoriginal analysis and vicarious struggles.

Yeah, Im sure all the hositility was coming from the occupied and oppressed. The English are so reasonable and fundamentally decent after all. Reminds me of men complaining about angry lesbians.

And by the way Im not a man.

[the impossibilist]

And your point by posting that video is?

This is what John Lennon had to say about the objectization of women under Capitalism.

YouTube - John lennon - Woman is the ****************************** of the world

A fitting tribute to Irish working class women who have more than played their part in the fight for freedom.

YouTube - Mairead Farrell

Yet more of your sermonising Do you have a single original thought or life experience ?

But I'm curious. What does the objectivisation of women under capitalism have to do with anything here ? ? ?

By the way. They objectivised me too. It was great. I'd advise you to get some.

[SevenStars]

Since you insist on seeing things in class terms, you should therefore reconsider your certain insouciance towards the working-class kids who, having no viable career choices in the sink estates of Darlington or Sheffield etc, choose the British Army.

Where is your class-consciousness in that context, brother ?

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Have you ever read what Karl Marx wrote about the hired killers of the English ruling class of his era? Its not particularly PC.

I feel the same about mercenary scum as I do about heroin dealers. Both deadly enemnies of the Irish working class and both beloved of the Irish establishment.

[SevenStars]

By the way. They objectivised me too. It was great. I'd advise you to get some.

Well Im sure they did. As I said originally...the way the middle class sexual objectize each other is pretty sick, I spoke about a class and not a gender.

And sorry...I have a boyfriend who loves me as a person not as some sexual object. Maybe if you had actually been loved or been in love you would understand whats wrong with objectivising other human beings...But hey, you are middle class, arent you?

[the impossibilist]

Yeah, Im sure all the hositility was coming from the occupied and oppressed. The English are so reasonable and fundamentally decent after all. Reminds me of men complaining about angry lesbians.

And by the way Im not a man.

Yes, ''the English'' are reasonable and fundamentally decent. Imagine that.

You cannot be serious. You really think undergraduates in a Welsh university feel ''oppressed'' and ''occupied'' by English fellow-undergraduates there ? Unbelievably stupid, is what you are.

One or two nutters, who were so mad into their pan-Celticism that they were learning the ''cúpla focail''... that's about it. On the other hand, I didn't see any signs of Saxon atrocities or reprisals.

Reminds me of men complaining about angry lesbians.

And by the way Im not a man

http://blogs.ballyfermot.ie/darrens/...larious_13.jpg

[the impossibilist]

Well Im sure they did. As I said originally...the way the middle class sexual objectize each other is pretty sick, I spoke about a class and not a gender.

And sorry...I have a boyfriend who loves me as a person not as some sexual object. Maybe if you had actually been loved or been in love you would understand whats wrong with objectivising other human beings...But hey, you are middle class, arent you?

Yet another shallow, generalised ill-founded, perceived insult, and assumption.

But no. Emphatically not then, no. And now, I'm above all that anyway.

But to be clear on what you're saying - all middle-class people sexually objectivise each other ? Presumably you must equally believe that all working-class people treat each other with total sexual dignity (otherwise the distinction is redundant, isn't it ?).

You are ridiculous.

And sorry...I have a boyfriend who loves me as a person not as some sexual object

Sure.

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[the impossibilist]

Have you ever read what Karl Marx wrote about the hired killers of the English ruling class of his era? Its not particularly PC.

I feel the same about mercenary scum as I do about heroin dealers. Both deadly enemnies of the Irish working class and both beloved of the Irish establishment.

Not PC ? A wonder you read it then.

Karl Marx has been dead for 125ish years ! ! ! !

So, only when it suits you, your analysis is class-based. Fine.

[SevenStars]

But to be clear on what you're saying - all middle-class people sexually objectivise each other ? Presumably you must equally believe that all working-class people treat each other with total sexual dignity (otherwise the distinction is redundant, isn't it ?).

You are ridiculous.

No I dont.

But we generally we treat each other with a lot more dignity than middle and upper class people.

Like this nonsense that working class people are more violent than middle class people, well look at the murder outside of the Burlington and other acts of violence by "rugger buggers" that generally go unpunished.

There isnt much actual working class violence in Dublin unless you count lumpen and petit bourgious criminal scum, which you probably do...There is a lot more middle class violence.

And in a class divided city such as Dublin only someone at the top could say they are "above it all".

[SevenStars]

Not PC ? A wonder you read it then.

Karl Marx has been dead for 125ish years ! ! ! !

So, only when it suits you, your analysis is class-based. Fine.

And your point is?

It was a lot easier to sympathize with the mercenary scum of the BA of his day than now.

[SevenStars]

Sure.

Pussy whipped image by Folding-Aces on Photobucket

And you were asking me if I was an undergraduate?