The Google Library and Partnership projects: barely covered by the Irish Times

[Christine Murray]

Google Book Search wants to eat your brains - Telegraph Blogs

In addition to the three techie companies allying against Google this bloggie (telegraph) discusses the issues in a pretty
simple way ^, though I will continue to recommend the PI pages on the GBS as a matter of course:

http://www.poetryireland.ie/resource...ettlement.html

[Christine Murray]

Open Book Alliance : Open Book Alliance formed against Google

Poethead: Open Book Alliance Formed by Yahoo,Amazon and Microsoft. poethead

[Christine Murray]

digital piracy continues unabated : BBC NEWS | Technology | Keeping Google out of libraries The EC will meet on anti-trust elements in the GBS 07/09/09.

[Christine Murray]

God Google inc are amazing, thus far the GBS has shown to be flawed in multiple ways
but the good old troopers that they are have gone and digitised 7 million books, 5 million
of which were copyright protected, two anti-trust meetings, a class action and now
the issue of privacy seems to be the latest in a long line of arbitrary and incompetent
idiocies :
US authorities urge privacy policy for Google books - News, Gadgets & Tech - The Independent

Of course the issue of privacy came up a few weeks ago and is linked on this thread,
along with an email address for those with concerns to contact Google and let them
know how you feel about data Privacy:http://www.eff.org/issues/privacy/go...rch-settlement

[Christine Murray]

Bump (meeting of the EC t/morrow) : EU to consult authors and publishers on Google deal | theBookseller.com

[Christine Murray]

Vit FT : http://m.ft.com/cms/s/0/afc1cfda-d12...9c72fcf062ec9a

[Christine Murray]

The US dept of Justice has opposed the revised Google Book Settlement (GBS),
this is a france24 report on the issue :

France24 - US Department of Justice opposes revised Google book deal

[truthisfree]

Dot you have posted a lot of links about this but without spending a whole lot of time perusing them, what is this about? Books run out of copyright and are available online all the time, other publications are pirated and made available online as well, it has proved impossible to prevent this, look at the pirate bay as the most famous example.

AFIK there is no law against digitising a book, have done so to some reference books I own myself. Are google going to make every published book available online for free or are they building an online iTunes type library that people can browse and buy if they wish?

[Christine Murray]

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I attended the Google Book Settlement Seminar at the RCSI this morning to get an overview of the case to date: Which
I must emphasise is not settled yet, thus making the dates/issues/cases and general agitation by Google whose advisors
and lawyers have created what is essentially an entirely arbitrary set of obfuscating circumstances to define book and
library digitalisation.

I think it's called Corporate avant-gardeism (cos it sure ain't intellectual):

Google Book Settlement Meet : Digitalisation


A Brief overview of the GBS:

i). Google has redefined what comprises Commercial availability.

ii). Through the Berne Convention (Which is covered by GBS) Irish Authors and Publishers have 'A US Copyright interest:'

Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

iii). Google (for the moment one assumes) is excluding personal papers, sheet music, periodicals, public domain
and governmental publications from the GBS.

* Oxford and Harvard have agreed with Goggle to digitalise their collections.

*2005: The Author's Guild and Mc Graw Hill sue Google for copyright infringement.

* +7 Million books have been digitalised of which 5 million were copyright protected.

(This means that they went ahead and infringed legal copyrights and decided to fight the legal point at a later date)

* 2008: The Google Book settlement is achieved: Google Book Search Settlement Notice to Rights-holders - Books & Inserts Registry

All info on the settlement will be available on a special Author's help page:

Poetry Ireland , inquiries to info@poetryireland.ie

Legal, timeline and other info : Irish Copyright Licensing Agency:: ICLA | Frontpage

Google Settlement info: Google Book Search Settlement Notice to Rights-holders - Books & Inserts Registry

The only IT article was hidden in the financial pages : In short - The Irish Times - Fri, Jul 10, 2009


The European Commission is meeting on this on the 07/09/09 to look at anti-trust elements which are
also brewing in the US (the speaker indicated that this is generally part of a class action in the US).


because a number of cheap US authors thought to support the Goliath, the issues has spread virally into the EU
whereby anti-trus meeting and Berne Convention will directly impinge on Irish Publishers and Authors. The US Library
of Congress is not supporting the Google lIbrary or Partnership projects.
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here's the OP, did you read it ? ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

Here's the explanatory via Poetry ireland (did you read it?)>>> : http://www.poetryireland.ie/resource...ettlement.html

I also have a Google legal letter which I think I will scan and add onto this thread.

This morning reports are that the dept of Justice has opposed the revised GBS, though there have been European concessions
which are detailed in another thread here>>>>> :

http://www.politics.ie/europe/100445...ement-gbs.html

[truthisfree]

As far as I can see Google are going to digitise and archive all out of print books, sounds like a good idea. If some of these are still under copyright and the owners have not bothered to keep them in print, lost interest or died, I still do not see that Google are doing anything wrong.

If they allow the copyrighted material available online freely and the onus is on the owner to contact them to remove it, this also seems fair, it would be impossible to chase the owners of all copyrighted books that are out of print.