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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Con O'Sullivan View Post
    Yes. The Lateran Council in 1123 forbade the practice of medicine to monks and priests.

    1131 the Council of Rheims prohibited monks from attending medical schools.

    In 1139 a Lateran Council decreed severe punishment for monks and priests for practiced medicine.

    1163 Pope Alexander III issued another prohibition and in 1215 Pope Innocent issued an anathema against the practice of surgery.

    Council of Tours likewise forbade surgery and Council of Lateran in 1215.

    Pope Honorius extended the ban in 1243. The Dominicans in the same year banned medical books from their properties. In 1248 the Council of Les Mans forbade monks to become involved in surgery or dissection. Boniface VIII forbade dissection and this effectively crippled the development of surgery for two centuries.

    I could go on- and this kind of garbage persisted right into the era of the Bubonic Plague. Want to know why the church was dead against surgery and operations in general?

    Because St Augustine and Tertullian declared surgery to be 'the mutilation of the temple of the Holy Ghost'.

    Now I noticed that you queried that bit of my post but carefully left out my assertion about the sun going around the earth and Galileo's house arrest et etc. Why did you snip out one assertion and not include the others? Can I assume you had no objection to those assertions?
    Don't forget that it was also because premodern surgery and medicine was usually useless if not actively harmful to the patient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Con O'Sullivan View Post

    It wasn't an Atheist who turned up at the Dail with ash on his forehead and after morning mass and set about enriching himself, pulling criminal strokes, avoiding tax and blatantly lying to the electorate.
    And lived with a woman he wasn't married to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalywise View Post
    And lived with a woman he wasn't married to.
    And recently said he lived by the ten commandments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by florin View Post
    Don't forget that it was also because premodern surgery and medicine was usually useless if not actively harmful to the patient.
    Rubbish.

    During the golden age of Islam, roughly around the same time as the golden age of Ireland (8th-10th centuries) medical knowledge in the Islamic world grew at an extremely rapid pace - medical practice on that level was not reached in backward benighted Europe until maybe the mid-19th century.

    The knowledge was there, the intelligent people were there - only the sad old peasant grovelling mentality and the pathetic backward systems of hierarchical control kept Europe stagnant for centuries.

    Any reading of global history quickly points out who the villians are, time and time again. Fearful reactionary conservatives, afraid that if the herd start thinking for themselves they will lose their privileged positions. Again and agin all through human history, the same gobsheens f*** it up every single time.

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    John waters another shameless self publicist,Eurovision Winner and successful club footbal manager!

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