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your point is?
I'm sure he is. What he is talking about is as far as I'm concerned the most important reason for legalising cannabis use. The current laws are simply eroding respect for the cops and law in general.
The trouble is its so easy to smear any one who comes out and says 'hey perhaps we should legalise dope' with innuendo that the perspn saying so would have to be extremely respectable.
As the great warrior poet Ice Cube once said, 'if the day does not require an AK, it is good.'
LOL, this is totally untrue
........and why is the discussion today being averted from the mainstream? Well, I have no problem at all quoting
terrence mckenna;
"The problem is that cannabis promotes social values and attitudes that are unwelcome in capitalist market based
society. Its that simple. A drug like coffee with an horrendous health profile compared to cannabis is completely
welcomed into the market place and the home and the lifestyle of modern people. It is simply that we value
certain states of mind and we fear and suspect others; and this is based entirely upon value systems that are
inculcated from above"
...........could also put forward sound argument against the health problems attributed to cannabis, here even,
amongst such strong anti-prohibition debate. IF you like.......
Interesting take. Now that you mention it cannabis users are in general less likely to be wrapped up in materialism IMO - and i,m not referring to the hippy stereotype stoner.
this is usually interpreted as a lack of motivation. maybe the motivation is just to have different priorities.
I think the late great Bill Hicks summed it up ''you can do all the thing you would normally do when you are stoned, you just realise it's not worth the f**king effort''
So the media fear whacky baccie will make us slacky ?
cYp
"Yawn , am I alive yet ?"
I think the only thing the media fear is that we might ignore them. another potentially positive side effect if only the dope was that strong.
The media go with the herd. When the British Indy put their head up above the parapet on this issue, they were roundly condemned by all the usual useful idiots for prohibition - Tories (some of whom subsequently admitted having smoked cannabis themselves), former coppers, emotive former smack addicts and so on.
Other papers took the opportunity to have a go at a rival paper. Result: debate successfully stifled.
Having said that, things like the Lancet paper have led to a more open and fact-based debate recently. The BBC Horizon documentary 'Is Alcohol more dangerous than Ecstasy?' being one of them.
(The answer to that titular question is yes, obviously.)
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My point is.........................
Why would you listen to a president like Gaviria that showed the ultimate act of weakness to a druglord by begging him to surrender for a shortened sentence and a presidential suite for a prison cell?
This guy was spineless and a weakling for most of his presidency in Colombia..............................
Zadillo isn't any better, if his government made more of an effort back then with the Federales to crush the drug cartekls in mexico............................... you wouldn't have the warzone it is now.
The US Agencies like the FBI & DEA were demanding more action from the mexicans back in the early 90's to stop drugs crossing the border through Tijuana, now after a decade they are bloody doing something properly!
Last edited by DaBrow; 26th February 2009 at 09:49 PM. Reason: Extension
I agree with what iartaoiseach said. You don't have a point.
There would be no corruption, murder or violence if these products were made legal. Just like all products, competition should be based on price, not force.
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I've argued with you in a previous thread over policy towards drugs.
Legalising them would be a copout, lastly I don't believe you saw my response to the other poster, these leaders demanding legalisation were weak and did nothing to truly combat the evil drug dealers are............. that was my point.
Why listen to people who have a poor record of actually trying to beat these people?
Progress is being made in mexico because the government are cracking down harshly on these guttersnipes, due to calderon.
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