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    Irish Political Review wakes the dead...

    Is there no limit to the powers of the Loyalist-turned-Little Irelander magazine, Irish Political Review?

    Looking through its January editorial:

    The European Parliament has investigated Ganley for Un-European Activities with a view to morally intimidating the electorate for its own good. But the operation was spoiled by the Czech President on his visit to Ireland, when he treated Ganley as a person with legitimate views on Europe who publicised those views legitimately.

    In the European Parliament the Czech President was harassed on behalf of majority opinion in the Parliament by Rudi Dutschke, the famous dissident of the 1968 happening who cannot tolerate dissidence now. Such is the way of the world, especially with regard to student revolutionaries.

    The Czech President—a dissident in a Westward direction today as he was in an Eastward direction way back then—was driven to hint at a similarity of attitude between Rudi Dutschke and President Brezhnev of the Soviet Union. Which is of course of a bit of an exaggeration—so far at least.
    Irish Political Review Editorial - January 2009

    Silly me, thinking Dutschke had passed away in 1979!

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    Dutschke, Cohn-Bendit - all these ex-hippies look the same, man!

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    Yes, the Irish Political Review's stupidity in this instance is amusing.

    But some of the other material IPR publishes isn't funny
    at all. It's quite disturbing.

    Irish Political Review Editorial - December 2004

    The heirs of Thomas Hobbes took an active part in destroying a Western-oriented regime in Iraq, and preventing its replacement by an Islamic regime—and Ireland did what was required of it. And Margaret Hassan disappeared in the chaos. Shortly before that Ken Bigley was executed...Ken Bigley worked on an American military project, but the case of Margaret Hassan excited more disgust: was she not dedicated to the welfare of the Iraqi people? But the matter was more complicated than appeared. Margaret Hassan had worked for the British Council in Iraq before the 1991 war, and subsequently she became Director of Care in Iraq. The British Council is a propaganda organisation of the British State committed to furthering its interests world-wide. Care is a "non Governmental Organisation" engaged in charitable works. But, during the 1990s, it came to rely very heavily on Government funding. The chief contributor of its multi-million budget is the United States Government, with the British Government running a close second. Contributions from charitably-inclined members of the public now account for only a fraction of its huge budget. It is now a state-funded body, and it is therefore natural that it should render services to the States which fund it. And those services are rendered in areas where the states themselves are regarded with hostility.

    ...despite the refusal of Care as an organisation to condemn the present invasion of Iraq, Margaret Hassan continued in active membership. She condemned the invasion, but that was only a personal gesture. The organisation whose activities in Iraq she directed tacitly supported the invasion, engaged in normalising activities under the Occupation, and refused to withdraw when the Iraqi resistance indicated that all such activity would be treated as hostile.


    Good God, this is quite appalling. Here's a woman who spent her life helping sick Iraqi children, who was critical
    of the US invasion, and the IPR smears her as an agent of US-British Imperialism.

    The August 2008 issue also claimed the Srebenica massacre never happened:

    http://www.atholbooks.org/review/ed_comment_21.php

    Sean Whelan… is RTE's Europe Editor, the man who comes on and gives the line. His report on the capture of Radovan Karadzic in Serbia was the usual rehash of US-UK propaganda about the conflicts in Yugoslavia. ...He made it seem that only the Serbs had committed crimes. His 'analysis' of what happened at Srebrenica was the usual 8,000 massacred. But nothing like this number of bodies has been discovered—about 3,000 at most. Most of these are unidentified and include both Bosnians and Serbs killed in the battles and Bosnian troops killed retreating. Most Bosnian soldiers managed to get to their own lines but this fact did not suit the Bosnian political leadership and they were added to the total. 'Remembering Srebrenica' is not meant to avoid future slaughter. Its purpose is to give the Western powers the excuse to carry out future massacres in the name of preventing them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lao-Tse View Post
    Is there no limit to the powers of the Loyalist-turned-Little Irelander magazine, Irish Political Review?

    Looking through its January editorial:



    Irish Political Review Editorial - January 2009

    Silly me, thinking Dutschke had passed away in 1979!

    Rudi Dutschke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Rudi Dutsche is most defnitely deceased . The injuries he suffered during the attempted assassination at the urging of the right wing german media were quite horrific and sadly he never fully recovered from them . If anyone has seen the Baader Meinhof Komplex film the assassination attempt is portrayed very realistically and it is quite horrific and shocking as well as accurate . As far as Im aware his last public appearance was at the funeral of RAF hungerstriker Holger Meinz , which also his first public appearnce since the assassination bid . He is most definitely not making speeches in the EU .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lao-Tse View Post
    Yes, the Irish Political Review's stupidity in this instance is amusing.

    But some of the other material IPR publishes isn't funny
    at all. It's quite disturbing.

    Irish Political Review Editorial - December 2004





    Good God, this is quite appalling. Here's a woman who spent her life helping sick Iraqi children, who was critical
    of the US invasion, and the IPR smears her as an agent of US-British Imperialism.

    The August 2008 issue also claimed the Srebenica massacre never happened:

    From Irish Political Review - August 2008 Editorial Commentary
    the entire Iraqi resistance including al qaeda and al zarqawi called for margaret hassan to be released unharmed . If one was to start asking the gentlemen of BICO who was funding their extreme and incessant pro British literature throughout the entire 1970s and apply their own logic then im afriad we would be fully entitled to retrospectively abduct and behead them on the internet . Because the voluminous and widely and often clandestinely distributed BICO literature was without any doubt welcomed by the British military intelligence services , for want of a better description.
    A massacre occured without doubt in srebrinica , the scene of despicable war crimes and atrocities . But questioning the scale of the figures bandied about by the west does not amount to denial that it actually occured .

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    Quote Originally Posted by merle haggard View Post
    the entire Iraqi resistance including al qaeda and al zarqawi called for margaret hassan to be released unharmed .
    You're right. I'm sure Hassan was probably
    murdered by an organised crime faction. Certainly,to
    describe her as an agent of Anglo-American imperialism
    like the IPR did is disgraceful.

    If one was to start asking the gentlemen of BICO who was funding their extreme and incessant pro British literature throughout the entire 1970s and apply their own logic then im afriad we would be fully entitled to retrospectively abduct and behead them on the internet . Because the voluminous and widely and often clandestinely distributed BICO literature was without any doubt welcomed by the British military intelligence services , for want of a better description.
    Isn't that the old rumour-that B&ICO were allegedly getting money from British intelligence? I'd personally
    be careful about saying stuff like that (they might do
    a "Ganley") but it is puzzling how Athol Books has been
    publishing so much stuff since the 1970s without,apparently, any financial problems.

    Mind you, they used to be Irish Republicans,albeit
    not very nice ones:

    They [B&ICO] republished works by Stalin and by James Connolly, accusing the official Connolly Association of seriously misrepresenting his views.

    In 1968, the ICO gave a press release which defended the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lao-Tse View Post
    Yes, the Irish Political Review's stupidity in this instance is amusing.

    But some of the other material IPR publishes isn't funny
    at all. It's quite disturbing.

    Irish Political Review Editorial - December 2004





    Good God, this is quite appalling. Here's a woman who spent her life helping sick Iraqi children, who was critical
    of the US invasion, and the IPR smears her as an agent of US-British Imperialism.
    They're a very nasty bunch, no matter what political orientation they profess. (And they've changed their views quite a few times.)
    - from the fourth paragraph in the article linked below.
    The August 2008 issue also claimed the Srebenica massacre never happened:

    From Irish Political Review - August 2008 Editorial Commentary
    Not surprising, they go in for bizarre claims that fit their worldview and have made very bizarre attacks - to quote from one article:
    The Penal Law system in Ireland was established in the name of Liberty, and was a reign of terror based on military conquest. And the Irish Humanists told us recently that it pacified us and was good for us.

    Hitler's Pope?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geekzilla View Post
    They're a very nasty bunch, no matter what political orientation they profess. (And they've changed their views quite a few times.)


    Not surprising, they go in for bizarre claims that fit their worldview and have made very bizarre attacks - to quote from one article:
    The Penal Law system in Ireland was established in the name of Liberty, and was a reign of terror based on military conquest. And the Irish Humanists told us recently that it pacified us and was good for us.

    Hitler's Pope?
    Citation needed, Brendan. Who are these "Irish Humanists" who make this claim?

    The Jan. IPR and the current issue of Church and State have four articles in total attacking Steven King's review
    of the Coolacrease book. Surely one reply would be enough?

    The Sliabh Luachra Village Idiot says in C&S,pg. 36:
    The SBP says we stopped defending unionists because "the unionists had ceased being unionists"...
    But what need is there for a micro-group to defend them
    now, when nationalist Ireland has (resentfully) given
    in to the case that we made for them?
    Okay, Brendan. Name one member of nationalist Ireland who agrees with what you said in the early 70s: that
    the Ulster Unionists fulfilled the Stalinist definition of a nation* and hence had to protected from "the altar-hugging gombeen men?". Look at his arrogance. He seriously believes he has been dictating the whole course
    of events over the last forty years. H

    * Stalin defined a nation as "A nation is an historically evolved, stable community of language, territory, economic life, and psychological make-up manifested in a community of culture." The B&ICO used this defintion in their 1975 book "The Two Irish Nations"-there's probably other citations,but TTIN is the only B&ICO pamphlet from that time I can remember the details of.
    Go on Brendan, name one person in the "Nationalist Ireland" who believes the Ulster Protestants fit every category of that description. Sure they had to invent their own fake "language" (Ulster Scots) and absorb two-majority Catholic counties in the NI statlet to make it viable. (No "stable community of territory there").

    EDIT: There's an old,but useful critique of the B&ICO's views here:
    http://www.marxists.org/history/etol...051/trench.htm
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    There was actually a very disturbing article in the
    January IPR called "Has The General A Point?" by
    Philip O'Connor,which mentioned the infamous comments
    by the sacked Japanese General Toshio Tamogami defending
    Japan's conduct in WWII. O'Connor agreed, saying the
    Sino-Japanese War was a US_KMT plot and Japan's
    rule in Korea and Manchuria was a "very moderate" regime!

    O'Connor's essay had no mention of Japan's burning of Korean books, the looting of Korea's resources, the sexual abuse of Korea "comfort women" or the Nanking massacre.

    O'Connor cited a book by Mike Davis, "Late Victorian Holocausts", to support his claims, without mentioning that
    Davis' book is strongly critical of Japan's brutal rule in
    Korea.

    "Korea at the end of the Victorian era was still reeling from
    the terrible repression of the Tonghak Revolution by the
    Japaned in 1894-5.
    "
    Late Victorian Holocausts, pg. 195.

    When can we expect articles from the IPR's new guest
    contributors, Pat Buchanan and David Irving?

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