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About LinkBacksL.O.L. The irony of that statement, from someone who probably marched in support of Hamas.Originally Posted by havesomeimagination
L.O.L. The irony of that statement, from someone who probably marched in support of Hamas.
It is desperate, that a site can be targeted for closure in this state. That a site would have undue pressure brought on it by the authorities. It is ironic that the Micro leftist groups, that advocate this, are against it in other countries. Free speech should still count for something.
While I have never visited that site, I firmly subscribe to Voltaire's maxim on freedom of speech being allowed even where one hates what another is saying. The elite in Ireland and the EU have a liberal-left and post-nationalist perspective and this is part of how they try to silence those who challenge it. The point of view that wants tighter immigration-controls is not of itself a racist one, unlike the reverse-racism of some who want to impose their post-nationalist ideology on the Irish people, without getting a mandate from the Irish people to do so. There are plenty of lawyers and NGOs profiting from the asylum system in this country, and it suits them to silence those who stand up to them. Naturally I condemn Stormfront, and say that if indeed that website was linking to them that it shouldn't have done so. But once you go down the road of internet-political censorship, you are on a slippery-slope to dictatorship. The Left can criticise others on records of authoritarianism, but people in glass-houses shouldn't throw stones, and arguably authoritarians from their side of the fence killed even more people than those on the fascist Right - remember Stalin killed 20 million and Mao 100 million people, yet we never hear these dogooders demanding Commie websites be taken down. The hypocrisy is staggering but unsurprising. On a broader analysis, this issue raises broader questions of the applicability of political-control over the internet. Those cheering these events today may have cause for regret if their websites fall victim to such pressure in the future. It is already the case in Russian that incitement to hatred legislation is routinely used against the liberal opposition there. The outcome of any possible legal proceedings intended to censor political discussion online is uncertain and as such it may have been better for all concerned - including those who disagree with this site - had the owners of the site stood their ground, having regard to precedent and the law of unintended consequences.
Last edited by FutureTaoiseach; 12th January 2009 at 12:02 AM.
It is a fascinating clip because the two Seoiges seem to be astounded at the level of interest in the subject and how the majority of opinion is against the usual mass-immigrationist viewpoint.
Regards...jmcc
Nobody is being censored. They decided to close down the site for whatever reasons. If there is an investigation we'll probably hear about. Personally I don't think it is any loss. Maybe they should have looked at migrationwatch UK, but instead they went down a very dubious route. It was about time somebody piped up about it.
"The thing that always annoyed me about traditional Irish historiography was the paradox of its Anglocentrism. People are now prepared, I think, to confront the possibility that many Irish problems are, in a sense, indigenous to the Irish situation." Roy Foster (1989).
TBH I didn't even know they existed until I saw that clip!
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As I earlier saidIt is desperate, that a site can be targeted for closure in this state. That a site would have undue pressure brought on it by the authorities. It is ironic that the Micro leftist groups, that advocate this, are against it in other countries. Free speech should still count for something.Originally Posted by Catalpa
To protect their sources.
Hopefully they will be back.
I suggest they consult the Legal Eagles as I'm pretty certain the Garda can't force people to reveal this kind of information unless they are engaged in a specific criminal investigation.
They haven't specified which authorities contacted them or why. This story deserves no more oxygen until there are more specifics.
cYp
"Yawn , am I alive yet ?"
Immediate deportation for anyone who criticises the Grainne Seoige. I will strike thee down with a vengeance, mine bloodlust shall not be smited...
Which there won't be.
"The thing that always annoyed me about traditional Irish historiography was the paradox of its Anglocentrism. People are now prepared, I think, to confront the possibility that many Irish problems are, in a sense, indigenous to the Irish situation." Roy Foster (1989).
The guy behind the MigrationWatch website is our old friend feenxp, currently posting here as dandyspencer/Dr Kildamore (and on the Stormfront site as DarkWatcher). He's been banned for inventing ludicrous hate-mongering stories against immigrants countless times. He's also the guy who was behind the Irish National Party website, a half-hearted attempt to ape the BNP in "Eire" with policies of "repatriation" for non-white residents and a suggested Council of the British Isles by which we would ally ourselves with our British cousins and leave the EU.
As can be seen from posts like this he's a racist and a fantasist. I strongly doubt that this story of "the authorities" closing him down is anything other than a bullsh*t attempt to get attention.
Step forward the ever-credulous Catalpa. Seriously, old man - are English white supremacists not a bridge too far, even for you?
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