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    "mostly my friends have moved to guardian and ft. sad really., "

    I'm sure with their increasing sales, they mourn your loss. This is right up there with the Skibbereen Eagle and Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobert View Post
    As regards to what?
    share price and a whole lot more....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odyessus View Post
    A foreigner once said to me: "The Irish Times is the best newspaper in Ireland."

    I ruefully agreed.
    It's not the best paper on sale in Ireland, The Times, Daily Telegraph, and the Independent may miles better.

    It may be the best paper published in Ireland though as the competition is awful.

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    All those opposed to PCness should rejoice were this publication to cease. While in favour of a plurality of political-ideologies being represented in the national media, the IT has too much influence on our politicians, especially in terms of being soft on crime, and illegal immigration, as well as being out of touch on the EU. The IT would appear to be the Bible of Leinster House but of only a dwindling number outside it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    All those opposed to PCness should rejoice were this publication to cease. While in favour of a plurality of political-ideologies being represented in the national media, the IT has too much influence on our politicians, especially in terms of being soft on crime, and illegal immigration, as well as being out of touch on the EU. The IT would appear to be the Bible of Leinster House but of only a dwindling number outside it.
    Agree 100%. I'm delighted it is in trouble. If the massive loss making rag The Sunday Tribune were to cease, that would be excellent as well. Those two papers are nauseating with their right on PC rubbish. The Irish Times should be seen for what it is. Essentially it is a regional paper for South Dublin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    All those opposed to PCness should rejoice were this publication to cease. While in favour of a plurality of political-ideologies being represented in the national media, the IT has too much influence on our politicians, especially in terms of being soft on crime, and illegal immigration, as well as being out of touch on the EU. The IT would appear to be the Bible of Leinster House but of only a dwindling number outside it.

    I would much rather that News/Media was neutral and presented the reader
    with actual information rather that pissing around with personalities,
    cronies and fluff. I.T is light on information; and as someone else said
    heavy on advertising. People buy newspapers specifically to get
    information, not scary bed-time stories or nursery rhymes by the
    terminally incapable. It is suffering from provincialism, who else would
    employ Breda O Brien for her opinion?

    (meow)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobert View Post
    I hate the Times, hate it's editor, it's reporters, it's blatant pro-Lisbon bias, it's crappy type face and I hate that it rivals a company I have shares in.

    Still, it was, many moons ago, a somewhat decent paper. I'd prefer not to see it go under but rather just be bought by someone else (Denis O'Brien perhaps).
    So you want the IT to be taken over by Sir Tony's arch nemesis? That's a good idea...I wonder what kind of editorial line it would take? Hmmmm

    Give me a break.

    The IT, thank f**k, is not owned by a corporation but instead, is owned by a trust - like the Guardian in the UK. It makes for a better paper as it is surely the best way to ensure the paper's independence.

    I'm sorry that the IT is in trouble. IMO it's the best paper in Ireland - the archive is amazing (I was looking up the front pages from the 1860s recently), the features are ususally excellent and the columnists, despite what people seem to be saying here, have vastly differing political perspectives.

    TCH and INM own practically every paper that is published in Ireland. It's unhealthy and I hope the IT, and the trust, endure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draiocht23 View Post
    So you want the IT to be taken over by Sir Tony's arch nemesis? That's a good idea...I wonder what kind of editorial line it would take? Hmmmm

    Give me a break.

    The IT, thank f**k, is not owned by a corporation but instead, is owned by a trust - like the Guardian in the UK. It makes for a better paper as it is surely the best way to ensure the paper's independence.

    I'm sorry that the IT is in trouble. IMO it's the best paper in Ireland - the archive is amazing (I was looking up the front pages from the 1860s recently), the features are ususally excellent and the columnists, despite what people seem to be saying here, have vastly differing political perspectives.

    TCH and INM own practically every paper that is published in Ireland. It's unhealthy and I hope the IT, and the trust, endure.
    Well clearly the reason you like it is because you're reading the editions from fifty years ago. Read it today then compare it.
    Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are, and those few dare not oppose themselves to the opinion of the many, who have the majesty of the state to defend them.

    - [SIZE=2]Niccolò Machiavelli[/SIZE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by draiocht23 View Post
    So you want the IT to be taken over by Sir Tony's arch nemesis? That's a good idea...I wonder what kind of editorial line it would take? Hmmmm

    Give me a break.

    The IT, thank f**k, is not owned by a corporation but instead, is owned by a trust - like the Guardian in the UK. It makes for a better paper as it is surely the best way to ensure the paper's independence.

    I'm sorry that the IT is in trouble. IMO it's the best paper in Ireland - the archive is amazing (I was looking up the front pages from the 1860s recently), the features are ususally excellent and the columnists, despite what people seem to be saying here, have vastly differing political perspectives.

    TCH and INM own practically every paper that is published in Ireland. It's unhealthy and I hope the IT, and the trust, endure.
    Hopefully Murdoch will snap it up. Otherwise I will shed no tears if it ceases publication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    Hopefully Murdoch will snap it up. Otherwise I will shed no tears if it ceases publication.
    Typical West Brit nonsense from you.

    *meaning to see it controlled from London not owned by an American/Australian/Chinese dude

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