IRISH TIMES in financial trouble?

[Christine Murray]

re my assertion on sales, quite simply put many people i know get guardian weekly subscriptions or buy ft. its that simple really. reasons cited include lack of analysis particularly on foreign policy and geopolitics. I tend to agree, theres a lack of context which bores me and others too.

[jmcc]

It started strong - about 8,000 circulation.

Based on what figures?

Admittedly, that went down to about 2,500 but the papers were only up and running for 8 months.

I've seen stacks of it in various shops and newsagents. Nobody seemed to read it.

They had an excellent staff but were not given much of a chance.

The paper went to the wall too quickly to make any decision on that. Local newspapers tend to take years to get up and running properly.

However, INM made the decision to set up and then screwed the staff.

It looked like a typical INM spoiler strategy to hit TCH.

Regards...jmcc

[kerrynorth]

sounds about right.

in all areas of the private sector its the middlemanagement , HR and advertising dept that go first. in the times i suppose that mean the sales dept.

wouldnt rule out em printing the paper in another region worse comes to worse. half the print media in america is printed in either canada or korea/the phillipines.

mental but there you go.

when journos start losing their jobs thats the equivilant of macdonalds sacking the till girls. be only a matter of time till bankruptcy then.


maybe vinny can give em some tips ?

Oh. I forgot to post this up but apparantly Village magazine is making a comeback shortly. You just cannot kill off our Vinnie.

[jmcc]

Oh. I forgot to post this up but apparantly Village magazine is making a comeback shortly. You just cannot kill off our Vinnie.

New management and it will have a column from Vinnie.

Regards...jmcc

[Bobert]

I hate the Times, hate it's editor, it's reporters, it's blatant pro-Lisbon bias, it's crappy type face and I hate that it rivals a company I have shares in.

Still, it was, many moons ago, a somewhat decent paper. I'd prefer not to see it go under but rather just be bought by someone else (Denis O'Brien perhaps).

[jmcc]

I hate the Times, hate it's editor, it's reporters, it's blatant pro-Lisbon bias, it's crappy type face and I hate that it rivals a company I have shares in.

Still, it was, many moons ago, a somewhat decent paper. I'd prefer not to see it go under but rather just be bought by someone else (Denis O'Brien perhaps).

Careful now. Such blasphemy is at odds with the registrant of the site in your signature.

Regards...jmcc

[Bobert]

Careful now. Such blasphemy at odds with the registrant of the site in your signature.

Regards...jmcc

Oww... my pride.

[CitiZenJonredux]

Perhaps IT could take a leaf out of The Star-Ledger's book.

A new journalism career path: mailroom

[adamirer]

If they are in financial trouble it not because of falling sales of the paper or their editorial direction, it is because of a huge drop in advertising especially in the jobs or housing supplements.

Exactly on the money. The advertising across all papers has been crucified. The Times ran twice this late summer without a single fully paid page of advertising.

The ABCs are ok, its the €€€... watch the other groups....

[adamirer]

I hate the Times, hate it's editor, it's reporters, it's blatant pro-Lisbon bias, it's crappy type face and I hate that it rivals a company I have shares in.

Still, it was, many moons ago, a somewhat decent paper. I'd prefer not to see it go under but rather just be bought by someone else (Denis O'Brien perhaps).

Jesus, I hope its not IMN.. bloodbath