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    Morning Ireland set up is all wrong...

    When I tune in at 7 am after the news all I get is fluff about the newspapers, sometimes traffic and business headlines. It's usually 7:15 before they get their teeth into their first story.

    Meanwhile over on Newstalk they're well into gear. Now I do dislike Gilroy's arrogant swagger but at least thier production team have their priorities right and 'get stuck in' from the off...

    Anyone agree...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silvio Dante View Post
    When I tune in at 7 am after the news all I get is fluff about the newspapers, sometimes traffic and business headlines. It's usually 7:15 before they get their teeth into their first story.

    Meanwhile over on Newstalk they're well into gear. Now I do dislike Gilroy's arrogant swagger but at least thier production team have their priorities right and 'get stuck in' from the off...

    Anyone agree...?
    No. That 15 minute of "fluff" lets you know whether there's any reason to buy one of the papers. (usually not)
    And first thing in the morning, a wee run-up to the main lets the caffeine kick in before anything gets newsy.

    edit, Newstalk starts a half hour before RTE, 6:30am, not 7:00am.

    Oh yeah, News Talk first thing in the morning (6:30 -7:00) is a bit like waking up after a good sleep and stepping into a nightclub in full flow.
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    You are correct. Newstalk's agenda is more democratic because of the greater input by listeners, while RTE symbolises the elites who think they know what's best for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach2005 View Post
    You are correct. Newstalk's agenda is more democratic because of the greater input by listeners, while RTE symbolises the elites who think they know what's best for us.
    Right, so the private company owned by Denis O'Brien is democratic, and the semi state body accountable to the people is elitist.

    I think what we have here is FT symbolising posting before thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach2005 View Post
    You are correct. Newstalk's agenda is more democratic because of the greater input by listeners, while RTE symbolises the elites who think they know what's best for us.
    Most listened to programme on radio, so they must reflect more than the views of the 'elite'.

    I have no argument with newstalk, but in what way do they have 'greater input by listeners'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fool View Post
    Right, so the private company owned by Denis O'Brien is democratic, and the semi state body accountable to the people is elitist.

    I think what we have here is FT symbolising posting before thinking.
    RTE is accountable to the govt, not the people. There is a difference.

    Quote Originally Posted by red-365
    Most listened to programme on radio, so they must reflect more than the views of the 'elite'.

    I have no argument with newstalk, but in what way do they have 'greater input by listeners'?
    Because the debare is more orientated towards the subject matter of texters and callers than RTE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silvio Dante View Post
    When I tune in at 7 am after the news all I get is fluff about the newspapers, sometimes traffic and business headlines. It's usually 7:15 before they get their teeth into their first story.

    Meanwhile over on Newstalk they're well into gear. Now I do dislike Gilroy's arrogant swagger but at least thier production team have their priorities right and 'get stuck in' from the off...

    Anyone agree...?
    I don't agree either I'm afraid. One of my favourite things on the show is "it says in the papers"...my main gripe is too much sport at 8.30.

    I've tried listening to the Newstalk show and it's just not as good - if by some miracle I'm up early I'll stick that on at 6.30 and then switch over - I find the first half hour of that show is pretty "fluffy" as well (and I always feel sorry for the hosts, having to get up so early).

    One thing I did like on Newstalk was during the US Republican and Democratic conventions they had US radio, live from the conventions, airing during the night instead of the "best of newstalk" repeats. It was a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draiocht23 View Post
    One thing I did like on Newstalk was during the US Republican and Democratic conventions they had US radio, live from the conventions, airing during the night instead of the "best of newstalk" repeats. It was a good idea.
    Agree totally there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by red-365 View Post
    Most listened to programme on radio, so they must reflect more than the views of the 'elite'.

    I have no argument with newstalk, but in what way do they have 'greater input by listeners'?

    well generally a text saying "a blokes just got shot in such and such, come down and cover it" will result in newstalk doing it.

    RTE will do the sport and get around to it, ooh , the next day or so.



    that said i like the "whats in the papers thing". my big beef with RTE is its gov FM and as such steers well clear of anything of note. case in point the doubling of our international risk assesment thanks to lenihans bank guarenttee plan. had to watch channel 4 to find that out.

    NEWSTALK though is slowly going down the ********************ter too. big problem? no fecking NEWS in half its programs. may as well call it TALKTALK (if that mobile company doesnt have the copyright) and the bleeding sport is taking over too.
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    It was 7:17 am this morning before MI got into their first story while Newstalk were halfway into their second...

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