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    The Irish Times political connection.

    Why has the Irish times lacked any meaningful coverage of the current economic down turn, are the readers above such trivial matters or is the paper hiding the truth because of some political pressure at the top. I always taught the Indo was a pro Fianna Fail paper but at least now they seem ready to discuss the reality of the current situation we find ourselves in.
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    Re: The Irish Times political connection.

    Quote Originally Posted by jasonmaye
    Why has the Irish times lacked any meaningful coverage of the current economic down turn, are the readers above such trivial matters or is the paper hiding the truth because of some political pressure at the top. I always taught the Indo was a pro Fianna Fail paper but at least now they seem ready to discuss the reality of the current situation we find ourselves in.
    I bought yesterday's IT and I think it will probably be for the last time....totally threadbare and flat as a pancake!

    Not saying I will switch to buying another weekend paper but I ask myself why I spent €2 on such a mediocore product.
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    Re: The Irish Times political connection.

    Quote Originally Posted by jasonmaye
    Why has the Irish times lacked any meaningful coverage of the current economic down turn, are the readers above such trivial matters or is the paper hiding the truth because of some political pressure at the top. I always taught the Indo was a pro Fianna Fail paper but at least now they seem ready to discuss the reality of the current situation we find ourselves in.
    To be fair it has had some, but it all feels a little after the event. Also it contributes nothing that would put it head and shoulders above the excellent Brendan Keenan and a couple of others in the Indo stable (overall not the pinnacle of economic critique by any means).

    My take on the IT is that it has been concerned to reflect the concerns and interests of the burgeoning AB readership/Celtic Tiger/yuppie market of recent years. The IT is rife with branding and marketing (all those lightweight supplements). In a blatant attempt to poach all manner of reader (dressed up as "balance"), they have taken on a rake of obnoxious or dull conservative opinion writers (e.g. Steyn, Krauthammer, Breda O'Brien). The editorials lack guts.

    Under no circumstances were they ever going to frighten the advertising horses, or upset the croissant breakfasts of their readers, with any sustained manner of doom-mongering. I could be wrong, but an editor with character might have decided in 2001 to go hell for leather on the property bubble. David McWilliams tried that one and got booted off NewsTalk at least partially for this. However, the IT might just have pulled it off. One does get the distinct impression though that this might have queered the pitch just a little to much for IT staff on the cocktail circuit.

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    Re: The Irish Times political connection.

    Think coverage of the downturn in the IT has been quite good. Not sensationalist, unlike the Indo (and don't get me started on the Sindo) and fairly balanced.

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    Re: The Irish Times political connection.

    Quote Originally Posted by Supermanpolitician
    Think coverage of the downturn in the IT has been quite good. Not sensationalist, unlike the Indo (and don't get me started on the Sindo) and fairly balanced.
    Agreed. The IT has improved a lot since its collective brain-fart during Lisbon. It's coverage of the downturn has been level-headed and fair-minded. RTE and Indo/Sindo have been a disgrace

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    Re: The Irish Times political connection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supermanpolitician
    Think coverage of the downturn in the IT has been quite good. Not sensationalist, unlike the Indo (and don't get me started on the Sindo) and fairly balanced.
    Agreed. The IT has improved a lot since its collective brain-fart during Lisbon. It's coverage of the downturn has been level-headed and fair-minded. RTE and Indo/Sindo have been a disgrace
    RTE and INM both have small numbers of able people but they get stifled by their editors.

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    Re: The Irish Times political connection.

    Quote Originally Posted by jasonmaye
    Why has the Irish times lacked any meaningful coverage of the current economic down turn, are the readers above such trivial matters or is the paper hiding the truth because of some political pressure at the top. I always taught the Indo was a pro Fianna Fail paper but at least now they seem ready to discuss the reality of the current situation we find ourselves in.
    Sure how could you expect balance given that its editor is a former PD TD FFS!







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    Quote Originally Posted by borntorum View Post
    Agreed. The IT has improved a lot since its collective brain-fart during Lisbon. It's coverage of the downturn has been level-headed and fair-minded. RTE and Indo/Sindo have been a disgrace
    We can expect plenty of renewed brain-fart now that they're ramping up the printing presses for the new year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by borntorum View Post
    Agreed. The IT has improved a lot since its collective brain-fart during Lisbon. It's coverage of the downturn has been level-headed and fair-minded. RTE and Indo/Sindo have been a disgrace
    Maybe you only think it was a brain-fart because it didn't fit your own personal opinion?

    Anyway I think the standard of reporting in the IT remains relatively high, while the Indo has simply descended into tabloid-style sensationalism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evercloserunion View Post
    Maybe you only think it was a brain-fart because it didn't fit your own personal opinion?

    Anyway I think the standard of reporting in the IT remains relatively high, while the Indo has simply descended into tabloid-style sensationalism.
    Ah yes. And as long as that idea is perpetuated forever more, sales amongst the chattering classes will persist.

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