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    Quote Originally Posted by The Eagle of the Ninth View Post
    West Brit.
    Please elaborate....

    I'd rather deal with an old school Tory who is fairly open about being in other nations for selfish reasons than a St Jo Cox
    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...itarian-crisis

    We're in Syria because dictatorship, and innocent civilians ... and Assad eats puppies... and..


    "I don't know anything about piple lines or controlling the eastern Mediterranean at the expense of the Iranians and the Russians. Honestly we're the only power in history who invade other nations devoid of selfish interest."

    The Russians do it, the Romans do too, the Mongols but not us .....honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seanof View Post
    To whom do you refer?
    The loyalist paramilitaries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strawberry View Post
    You should educate yourself a bit. Powell encouraged immigration to Britain from the Indian sub continent, he wasn't worried about muslims. It was the Afro Carribbeans he didn't like.
    Well its muslims who have come in their millions who are the greatest threat to a functioning democratic society some groups such as the Chinese and Sikhs have largely managed to integrate into society they certainly don't force their ideas onto others the way many muslims tend to do but regardless despite this the downsides of multiculturalism will have serious repercussions for the future of many native European societies controlled immigration of those who benefit a society is good uncontrolled immigration of those that don't is the major problem, there is far too much of the latter happening in the western world putting its security and indigenous culture at huge risk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by razorblade View Post
    Well its muslims who have come in their millions who are the greatest threat to a functioning democratic society some groups such as the Chinese and Sikhs have largely managed to integrate into society they certainly don't force their ideas onto others the way many muslims tend to do but regardless despite this the downsides of multiculturalism will have serious repercussions for the future of many native European societies controlled immigration of those who benefit a society is good uncontrolled immigration of those that don't is the major problem, there is far too much of the latter happening in the western world putting its security and indigenous culture at huge risk.
    Yawn.

    You need people to support a modern economy.

    Western Europeans aren't breeding.

    Go figure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by razorblade View Post
    Well its muslims who have come in their millions who are the greatest threat to a functioning democratic society some groups such as the Chinese and Sikhs have largely managed to integrate into society they certainly don't force their ideas onto others the way many muslims tend to do but regardless despite this the downsides of multiculturalism will have serious repercussions for the future of many native European societies controlled immigration of those who benefit a society is good uncontrolled immigration of those that don't is the major problem, there is far too much of the latter happening in the western world putting its security and indigenous culture at huge risk.
    Then you should be no fan of Enoch Powell, who went over to India and Pakistan and did everything possible to encourage immigration from those countries, he thought the muslims were more civilised than the savage black people from the West Indies. He was an old school biological racist and had very little in common with the modern Islamophobic crowd who worship him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drogheda445 View Post
    I just find it ironic that people like you would applaud Powell, a figure who represented a class of quasi-imperialist politicians that often regarded Irish nationalism and independence with contempt. The sort of people that Farage represents nowadays, and yet you still see self-proclaimed Irish alt-right nationalists continue to court them and seek their endorsement.
    Its possible to agree with someones sentiment without agreeing with everything they stand for you know take of your black and white blinkers and try looking at the bigger picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drogheda445 View Post
    I just find it ironic that people like you would applaud Powell, a figure who represented a class of quasi-imperialist politicians that often regarded Irish nationalism and independence with contempt. The sort of people that Farage represents nowadays, and yet you still see self-proclaimed Irish alt-right nationalists continue to court them and seek their endorsement.
    They stick their noses up the dessicated anus of a long-dead Englishman who would have regarded them with contempt. And who was quie properly kicked out of his own party and seen by English people as a malevolent tosser.

    What brand of sh*twittedness would idolise Powell? Oh yes - far right weirdos like OP.
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    Double post
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    Quote Originally Posted by gerhard dengler View Post
    This weekend 50 years ago, a British government minister, delivered a seismic speech on the issue of immigration, race relations and the future.

    Enoch Powell was a hugely successful politician. But he opposed immigration to England by populations from their colonies.

    An intellectual, some say he was a genius, Powell's speech was referred to as the "Rivers of Blood " speech because he forecast that if immigration continued such numbers that this influx would "give the black man the whip hand over the white man" in the future.


    https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...f-blood-speech

    A full recording of Powell's speech has never been broadcast in England by the BBC or any other media outlet.

    This weekend, BBC radio 4 has decided to broadcast the speech and to do a follow up segment discussing the speech

    The government of the day, decided to sack Powell from his job as minister and he never again scaled the political heights that he might have otherwise enjoyed.

    There is a lot of controversy over the Beeb decision to broadcast the speech, for the first time, 50 years after it was first orated.

    Is the BBC decision the correct one? if it is, or isn't, the right decision can you give reasons as to your view?

    This is the full speech as spoken by an actor

    The question posed (in bold) by the OP.

    Newsnight gave this question/topic a good airing earlier. The panel were divided as to whether or not broadcasting Powell's speech in full is wise.
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    I don't see any problem with broadcasting it.
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