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    Quote Originally Posted by DeBanksofDeLee View Post
    The three women downstairs never came to her aid which is a shame, but apparently she never cried out which is a pity maybe she thought the women were in cohoots in which case they should be on trial. She seems so strong willed and self assured on the stand she can face down an intimidating defence barrister so it's a pity she couldn't of faced them down and dictate they're not doing anything or getting it!. But there is 2 sides to every story and somewhere in between will lie the truth.
    The jury will have to accept one side as being the truth. One side - wishy washy pseudo philosophical definitions not needed. There is only one definition of the truth - the truth.

    As to why she never cried out, its a false equivalency to compare her performance in the dock to what she says happened that night, that being she was raped by two professional rugby players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsDaisyC View Post
    It looks like Jackson has been caught in a lie. He's claiming he didn't have sex with the "alleged" victim, but one of the other women in the house that evening has stated she saw a threesome with Jackson and Olding.
    Could it be that he didnt have intercourse with her but was digitally penetrating her - which might fall outside the definition of "sex"?
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    Olding will go down Jackson will get away with it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeBanksofDeLee View Post
    Olding will go down Jackson will get away with it!
    I wouldnt make a prediction, but if one defendant is claiming digital penetration, then that means his defence accepts something "untoward" did happen, and may be going for a lesser charge as Plan B.
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    Quote Originally Posted by *EPIC SUCCESS* View Post
    The jury will have to accept one side as being the truth. One side - wishy washy pseudo philosophical definitions not needed. There is only one definition of the truth - the truth.

    As to why she never cried out, its a false equivalency to compare her performance in the dock to what she says happened that night, that being she was raped by two professional rugby players.


    Yes the truth we all just want the truth but its up to the jury to decide whos telling. Now Jackson is in the dock and says he never had sex with her at all. So we definitely have a liar, who is lying? you seem to know I for one don't
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    Quote Originally Posted by A Voice View Post
    Easy for you to laugh snowflake, don’t think Jackson and the others are laughing now though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeBanksofDeLee View Post
    Yes the truth we all just want the truth but its up to the jury to decide whos telling. Now Jackson is in the dock and says he never had sex with her at all. So we definitely have a liar, who is lying? you seem to know I for one don't
    I seem to know? On what basis do you make that claim?

    Take your time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Eagle of the Ninth View Post
    I wouldnt make a prediction, but if one defendant is claiming digital penetration, then that means his defence accepts something "untoward" did happen, and may be going for a lesser charge as Plan B.
    Meh, there is nothing “untoward” about consensual fingering. The case rests upon finding out if it was consensual or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Cynicus View Post
    Oooohhh, even I’m getting a bit scared now. That’s the second time - (“A warning to Best”) post #1975 and “He needs to watch his step” here. What exactly are we talking about here? You gonna employ a Mafia hit squad? Stick pins in a voodoo doll? Post on twitter? Ring Joe Duffy?
    Best shouldn’t have been there that day and that was addressed by the judge and he had to explain himself afterwards. That much is clear, you’re attempts to dismiss it with bravado ring hollow and weak. He said in a poor explanation that he was there to hear both sides as he was to give a witness statement in support of the accused, he hasn’t been there since. Why would that be now do you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeBanksofDeLee View Post
    Yes the truth we all just want the truth but its up to the jury to decide whos telling. Now Jackson is in the dock and says he never had sex with her at all. So we definitely have a liar, who is lying? you seem to know I for one don't
    I think you have entirely missed the point. The second defendant cannot be convicted of rape if the Jury is satisfied that he did not penetrate the witness with his penis.

    He can be found guilty of sexual assault and possibly of encouraging and assisting the principal if the principal is found guilty of rape.
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