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    Quote Originally Posted by artfoley56 View Post
    prob thought wienstein would spike it anywhere else it went
    Very possible. There did seem a certain reluctance on the part of some media outlets to run with it at first. Perhaps is a less public and well-connected figure than Farrow had written it, it might never have seen the light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casablanca View Post
    Very possible. There did seem a certain reluctance on the part of some media outlets to run with it at first. Perhaps is a less public and well-connected figure than Farrow had written it, it might never have seen the light.

    I wonder if Farrow was asked to put his wealth on the line also, had Weinstein sued ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_anderson View Post
    Yes and no.
    This isn't the first paedo story to emerge from Hollywood.
    Indeed, most fail to gain traction.
    So the success of this story was not certain by any measure.
    It required major balls to publish.
    William Randolph Hearst's publications reported on the activities of Hollywood personalities such as Arbuckle. So there is precedence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casablanca View Post
    Is there still a role, in the internet age, for old fashioned investigative reporting?
    What influences a particular new organisation to run a story, or not?
    Are there particular forces at play in organisations when the subject of the story is a high profile one?
    More than ever, I would say, as media power concentrates in the hands of a tiny elite.

    https://www.seattletimes.com/enterta...al-newspapers/

    At least the Yanks don't have so much libel chill killing their stories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gerhard dengler View Post
    William Randolph Hearst's publications reported on the activities of Hollywood personalities such as Arbuckle. So there is precedence.

    True.
    But it goes back to my first point - the decline of traditional media have left them reliant on fewer large advertisers.
    Hence the power these advertisers now have.
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    It's a golden time to be a crooked councillor or gombeen enabler. I'm talking North America as well as Ireland. The major guys still get looked at but the town papers are disappearing everywhere. Citizen journalism is patchy at best out in the sticks and it's hard to sustain an investigation if any threats come your way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardillaun View Post
    More than ever, I would say, as media power concentrates in the hands of a tiny elite.

    https://www.seattletimes.com/enterta...al-newspapers/

    At least the Yanks don't have so much libel chill killing their stories.
    An interesting if tangental, fact is that the world's greatest investor, Warren Buffett, who a few years ago starting buying up newspaper titles, now thinks they're doomed.

    Warren Buffett changes his mind about newspapers: 'Newspapers are going to go downhill' - Talking New MediaTalking New Media | The digital publishing website
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    The first rule of celebrity scandals on P.ie is:

    You do not mention celebrity scandals on P.ie.



    The second rule of celebrity scandals on P.ie is:

    You DO NOT MENTION celebrity scandals on P.ie
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    Excellent OP btw but when I saw the "Farrow &" in the title, I thought this was going to be a thread about house decoration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redhead View Post
    The first rule of celebrity scandals on P.ie is:

    You do not mention celebrity scandals on P.ie.





    The second rule of celebrity scandals on P.ie is:

    You DO NOT MENTION celebrity scandals on P.ie
    It's an intriguing question and not just for P.ie(but most certainly including it!)

    There was, by all accounts, some media/forums that were reluctant to report on this particular revelation of Farrow's, that is the Harvey Wienstein case of course. Again, I wonder why that would be at all, and whether the story wouldn't have been published at all if it were a less connected person who wrote it. Going back to the OP, why would, in this day and age of virtually instant news, some sources run from a story that was front page in The Guardian and many others?
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