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    McSlaggart McSlaggart is online now
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    What was the Irish Potato Famine?

    ITV drama Victoria has taken a break from intrigue and power-play and costume balls. Instead, episode six sends us across the Irish Sea to see the horrors of the Great Famine, while the Queen berates her ministers for standing by and doing nothing.

    What was the Irish Potato Famine? And did Queen Victoria intervene? - Radio Times

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    Genocide inspired by a particular mutant strain of Protestantism and laissez-faire politics.
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    Britains legitimacy in Ireland if it ever existed ended with The Great Hunger .

    From them on its just playing out time . Ireland will be re-united and an Independent country from Britain in the not too distant future .

    Now we have to ask ourselves how much do we want to bow down to the Eu Empire ?
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    Apparently people on twitter were shocked at the attitudes to the Irish and the Famine. " They never told us this at school " etc.
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    Famine was a regular instrument of English rule.They did the same in the Highlands of Scotland and in India.
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    Quote Originally Posted by former wesleyan View Post
    Apparently people on twitter were shocked at the attitudes to the Irish and the Famine. " They never told us this at school " etc.
    Sad that it took a costume drama to raise awareness, but at least awareness is being raised.
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    Anyone who says it was genocide will be vilified.


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    40 million in the USA claiming Irish descent as with many in the UK along with places like Liverpool often referred to as the capital city of Ireland seems to have gone unquestioned and over their heads somewhat over the years....
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    There are two great myths about the great famine:

    • it was caused by Phytophthora infestans
    • the deaths were caused by starvation


    Reality is different:

    • the primary cause of the famine was groupthink. The rural Irish believed it was sustainable to raise 12 kids on 1.5 acres by relying on a single crop. Of course, sooner or later, disaster was going to strike. Just like the 2007 property bubble, nobody could tell Mick he was doing something totally stupid.
    • The biggest single cause of death was not starvation, but "yellow fever". This is not today's tropical yellow fever but a completely different vector borne disease called Relapsing fever (borreliosis) carried by lice and ticks. It is closely related to lyme disease. It spread among weakened overcrowded populations, wiping out entire communities. People died in huge numbers, much faster than you can starve.
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    Marcos the black Marcos the black is offline
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    It was about 170 years ago.
    While I agree it's good to discuss it from a historical perspective I still see people using it for modern day biases. From a physiological point of view I think we as a country "need to get over it".
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