Originally Posted by Libero
Indeed.
Interesting that the Gardai are saying that her dealer will probably never be known. Now, I'm not big into scoring coke but I'd imagine that people in the same circle tend to use the same dealer(s)? Hardly rocket science and the Waterford Gardai had the presumed source of the batch that killed the people at the party under lock and key within hours. Interesting contrast.
Careful now.
DGDS.
If I could mass-sterilise the planet, I would. Seriously.
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you have got to be kidding.
she is the most one dimensional, reactionary and hypocritical of columnists in Ireland today. she tries to come across as the moral guardian of Irish womanhood (in the 1950s mode, mind you), and then goes and marries a divorced man, cheats on him and divorces him!
you can't be Mary Poppins and Elizabeth Taylor at the same time Claire. having one leg in each of those camps leads to a nasty gymnastic strain fairly sharpish!
in fact, following a typically drivilous attack by Bryne on Katy, Katy responded in the papers the following week and handed Byrne a totally appropriate and insightful dressing down. as Katy said in the article, "next time Claire, pick on somebody your own IQ size!".
as for Waters, he is undoubtedly one of our most articulate commentators. however, having experienced his own substance abuse demons, he may be exhibiting survivors guilt in his reaction to Katy's death. lets face it, following the Primetime expose of the extent of our problem with cocaine there are probably alot of people in the same boat as Waters which may explain the reaction to Katy's death. the collective grief may be the public expression of a more private, intimate realisation, that there but for the grace of God go many of us.
I've only started looking into all this after I say two articles about to two guys from Waterford and Katy on the same page in the Ev Herald or something and I've been completely shocked. That article, if you call it that, by Waters is ridiculous. The last person we need as a role model for young girls is a coke head D4 snob who dropped out of college to become a model. That may a bit calous and insensitive but it's just the idea I have in my head from reading a good few articles today. It appears in the same way that the two guys from waterford are thought of as scumbags by many people. What I find is so bad that the fellas from Waterford "got what's coming to them", which is the opinion I got in most articles I've read yet this "angel" is at no fault.
Claire Byrnes (is that her name) article is good in that she doesn't feel she has to compliment someone just because she's dead. If you had a low opinion of someone when they were alive, why do we automatically feel that we have to change it when they die.
I don't particularly mean to offend people with this. I didn't know Katy French untill this happened so I may be wrong in my description. Some people become famous after they die due to their talent. The only talent I see a model as having is they are Good Looking. She has already been photographed thousands of times so her "talent" has been captured.
She will be missed by her family just as much as Kevin Doyle from Waterford. He had just recovered from cancer which makes it a little more tragic and pointless.
Oh man, I cant stop laughing at this.......
By the way, whats this about:
I dont have a problem with cocaine. I dont have a problem with people doing and I really couldnt care less about a bunch of people with too much money on their hands and too much time shovelling it up their noses either.following the Primetime expose of the extent of our problem with cocaine there are probably alot of people in the same boat as Waters which may explain the reaction to Katy's death.
Big deal.
If I could mass-sterilise the planet, I would. Seriously.
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When was he good? I've never been too impressed with his writing, but that may be because I've never read any of his good stuff.
I'm reading his new book, Lapsed Agnostic, and it is outstanding. I'd recommend it to anyone over 30.
Why the age specification?
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Just that I don't think I'd have got it any earlier than that.
I am crying, writing this. How can you cry for someone you've only once said hello to? Katy was the daughter of our dreams, in the sense that it was the dreams of her people that gave birth to what is tritely called her celebrity. We have these words to box off the lucky/unlucky ones who act out our fantasies, while we stick safely to the grandstand. We refer to them as celebs, implying a different species. But they are human beings, filled like the rest of us with desire, distinguished only by willingness/ opportunity to rush in where others fear to tread.
The old saw has it wrong: those who volunteer to act out our fantasies in public are both fools and angels. Driven by longing beyond knowing, their folly arises from a failure of awareness, experience, wisdom.
Driven by angelic recall, they plod on clay feet into the mire of three-dimensional reality. They do not know, are not conscious, that their appetites are infinitely greater than the world's capacity to satisfy them.
Katy French was a personification of our fantasies, of our sense of what we were becoming, of how we might unfold ourselves. She was not the only one, but in the immediate past was perhaps the most spectacular light on the skyline, a meteorite of desire plummeting through the Irish zeitgeist. You may dismiss it as frivolity but only, with respect, if you think in cliches and fixate on the superficial. For most of us, it is not wisdom that keeps us from danger, but lack of opportunity, or fear, or a deadly piety posing as virtue. Katy had found a way of being that promised her it could slake all her human cravings. She had manoeuvred herself into a position where everything humanly desirable seemed to be within reach, and was careering forward on the path opening up in front of her.
She did not, other than literally, die of whatever it will say on her death certificate. She died of desire, of being utterly human.
What can I say? The dream is over.
As for lessons, I don't know. In the past decade, we have, most of us, conducted searches for meaning in places previously inaccessible to us. We acquired means and freedom beyond our wildest.
We knew that money couldn't buy us love, but still gave it a shot. We sensed that freedom is a complicated word, but tried to keep it simple. Be, for tomorrow we die.
Where, after all, is the Muslim outrage at these events? As their ancient, deeply civilized culture of love, art and philosophical reflection is hijacked by paranoiacs, racists, liars, male supremacists, tyrants, fanatics and violence junkies, why are they not screaming? Salman Rushdie (2002)
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