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    Quote Originally Posted by diaspora-mick View Post
    So how much mainstream coverage was Bilderberg receiving prior to 2009 (when the Guardian started covering it) ?



    Our man at Bilderberg: in pursuit of the world's most powerful cabal | World news | theguardian.com
    Our man at Bilderberg: Let's salt the slug in 2010 | World news | theguardian.com

    And are you seriously claiming that when such people get together in a secretive conference that no "agendas" are set ? Are they just there to play golf ?
    They could be having a giant collective [email protected] for all I care. Bilderberg is a private meeting and under no obligation to tell anyone what they get up to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niall78 View Post
    There's certainly lots of crackpot conspiracy theories out there. Here's a load more that turned out to be more than mere conspiracies:


    (1) The Dreyfus Affair: In the late 1800s in France, Jewish artillery officer Alfred Dreyfus was wrongfully convicted of treason based on false government documents, and sentenced to life in prison. The French government did attempt to cover this up, but Dreyfus was eventually pardoned after the affair was made public (an act that is credited to writer Émile Zola).

    (2) The Mafia: This secret crime society was virtually unknown until the 1960s, when member Joe Valachi first revealed the society’s secrets to law enforcement officials. What was known was that organized crime existed, but not that the extent of their control included working with the CIA, politicians and the biggest businesses in the world.

    (3) MK-ULTRA: In the 1950s to the 1970s, the CIA ran a mind-control project aimed at finding a “truth serum” to use on communist spies. Test subjects were given LSD and other drugs, often without consent, and some were tortured. At least one man, civilian biochemist Frank Olson, who was working for the government, died as a result of the experiments. The project was finally exposed after investigations by the Rockefeller Commission.

    (4) Operation Mockingbird: Also in the 1950s to ’70s, the CIA paid a number of well-known domestic and foreign journalists (from big-name media outlets like Time, The Washington Post, The New York Times, CBS and others) to publish CIA propaganda. The CIA also reportedly funded at least one movie, the animated “Animal Farm,” by George Orwell. The Church Committee finally exposed the activities in 1975.

    (5) Manhattan Project: The Manhattan Project was the codename for a project conducted during World War II to develop the first atomic bomb. The project was led by the United States, and included participation from the United Kingdom and Canada. Formally designated as the Manhattan Engineer District (MED), it refers specifically to the period of the project from 1942–1946 under the control of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, under the administration of General Leslie R. Groves. The scientific research was directed by American physicist J. Robert Oppenheimer. The project’s roots lay in scientists’ fears since the 1930s that Nazi Germany was also investigating nuclear weapons of its own. Born out of a small research program in 1939, the Manhattan Project eventually employed more than 130,000 people and cost nearly US$2 billion ($22 billion in current value). It resulted in the creation of multiple production and research sites that operated in secret. With the total involved, this makes it one of the largest conspiracies in history. Entire towns were built for short periods of time, employing people, all under secrecy and top national secrecy at that. The government never admitted to it, the media never reported on it, and people had no idea for over 25 years. Project research took place at over thirty sites across the United States, Canada, and the United Kingdom. The three primary research and production sites of the project were the plutonium-production facility at what is now the Hanford Site, the uranium-enrichment facilities at Oak Ridge, Tennessee, and the weapons research and design laboratory now known as Los Alamos National Laboratory. The MED maintained control over U.S. weapons production until the formation of the Atomic Energy Commission in January 1947.

    (6) Asbestos: Between 1930 and 1960, manufacturers did all they could to prevent the link between asbestos and respiratory diseases, including cancer, becoming known, so they could avoid prosecution. American workers had in fact sued the Johns Manville company as far back as 1932, but it was not until 1962 that epidemiologists finally established beyond any doubt what company bosses had known for a long time – asbestos causes cancer.

    (7) Watergate: Republican officials spied on the Democratic National Headquarters from the Watergate Hotel in 1972. While conspiracy theories suggested underhanded dealings were taking place, it wasn’t until 1974 that White House tape recordings linked President Nixon to the break-in and forced him to resign.

    (8) The Tuskegee Syphilis Study: The United States Public Health Service carried out this clinical study on 400 poor, African-American men with syphilis from 1932 to 1972. During the study the men were given false and sometimes dangerous treatments, and adequate treatment was intentionally withheld so the agency could learn more about the disease. While the study was initially supposed to last just six months, it continued for 40 years. Close to 200 of the men died from syphilis or related complications by the end of the study.

    (9) Operation Northwoods: In the early 1960s, American military leaders drafted plans to create public support for a war against Cuba, to oust Fidel Castro from power. The plans included committing acts of terrorism in U.S. cities, killing innocent people and U.S. soldiers, blowing up a U.S. ship, assassinating Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees, and hijacking planes. The plans were all approved by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but were reportedly rejected by the civilian leadership, then kept secret for nearly 40 years.

    (10) 1990 Testimony of Nayirah: A 15-year-old girl named “Nayirah” testified before the U.S. Congress that she had seen Iraqi soldiers pulling Kuwaiti babies from incubators, causing them to die. The testimony helped gain major public support for the 1991 Gulf War, but — despite protests that the dispute of this story was itself a conspiracy theory — it was later discovered that the testimony was false. The public relations firm Hill & Knowlton, which was in the employ of Citizens for a Free Kuwait, had arranged the testimony. It turned out that she had taken acting lessons on request of the CIA and was actually the niece of a major politician in Kuwait. Nayirah was later disclosed to be Nayirah al-Sabah, daughter of Saud bin Nasir Al-Sabah, Kuwaiti ambassador to the USA. The Congressional Human Rights Caucus, of which Congressman Tom Lantos was co-chairman, had been responsible for hosting Nurse Nayirah, and thereby popularizing her allegations. When the girl’s account was later challenged by independent human rights monitors, Lantos replied, “The notion that any of the witnesses brought to the caucus through the Kuwaiti Embassy would not be credible did not cross my mind… I have no basis for assuming that her story is not true, but the point goes beyond that. If one hypothesizes that the woman’s story is fictitious from A to Z, that in no way diminishes the avalanche of human rights violations.” Nevertheless, the senior Republican on the Human Rights Caucus, John Edward Porter, responded to the revelations “by saying that if he had known the girl was the ambassador’s daughter, he would not have allowed her to testify.”

    (11) Counter Intelligence Programs Against Activists in the 60s: COINTELPRO (an acronym for Counter Intelligence Program) was a series of covert, and often illegal, projects conducted by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) aimed at investigating and disrupting dissident political organizations within the United States. The FBI used covert operations from its inception, however formal COINTELPRO operations took place between 1956 and 1971. The FBI’s stated motivation at the time was “protecting national security, preventing violence, and maintaining the existing social and political order.” According to FBI records, 85% of COINTELPRO resources were expended on infiltrating, disrupting, marginalizing, and/or subverting groups suspected of being subversive, such as communist and socialist organizations; the women’s rights movement; militant black nationalist groups, and the non-violent civil rights movement, including individuals such as Martin Luther King, Jr. and others associated with the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, the Congress of Racial Equality, the American Indian Movement, and other civil rights groups; a broad range of organizations labeled “New Left”, including Students for a Democratic Society, the National Lawyers Guild, the Weathermen, almost all groups protesting the Vietnam War, and even individual student demonstrators with no group affiliation; and nationalist groups such as those “seeking independence for Puerto Rico.” The other 15% of COINTELPRO resources were expended to marginalize and subvert “white hate groups,” including the Ku Klux Klan and National States’ Rights Party. The directives governing COINTELPRO were issued by FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, who ordered FBI agents to “expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, or otherwise neutralize” the activities of these movements and their leaders.

    (12) The Iran-Contra Affair: In 1985 and ’86, the White House authorized government officials to secretly trade weapons with the Israeli government in exchange for the release of U.S. hostages in Iran. The plot was uncovered by Congress in 1987.

    (13) he BCCI Scandal: The Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) was a major international bank founded in 1972 by Agha Hasan Abedi, a Pakistani financier. The Bank was registered in Luxembourg. Within a decade BCCI touched its peak, it operated in 78 countries, had over 400 branches, and had assets in excess of US$ 20 billion making it the 7th largest private bank in the world by assets. In the late 1980′s BCCI became the target of a two year undercover operation conducted by the US Customs Service. This operation concluded with a fake wedding that was attended by BCCI officers and drug dealers from around the world who had established a personal friendship and working relationship with undercover Special Agent Robert Mazur. After a six month trial in Tampa, key bank officers were convicted and received lengthy prison sentences. Bank officers began cooperating with law enforcement authorities and that cooperation caused BCCI’s many crimes to be revealed. BCCI came under the scrutiny of regulatory bodies and intelligence agencies in the 1980s due to its perceived avoidance of falling under one regulatory banking authority, a fact that was later, after extensive investigations, proven to be false. BCCI became the focus of a massive regulatory battle in 1991 and was described as a “$20-billion-plus heist”. Investigators in the U.S. and the UK revealed that BCCI had been “set up deliberately to avoid centralized regulatory review, and operated extensively in bank secrecy jurisdictions. Its affairs were extraordinarily complex. Its officers were sophisticated international bankers whose apparent objective was to keep their affairs secret, to commit fraud on a massive scale, and to avoid detection.”

    (14) CIA Drug Running in LA: Pulitzer Prize Award winning journalist Gary Webb exposed this alongside LAPD Narcotics Officer turned whislteblower and author Michael Ruppert, CIA Contract Pilot Terry Reed, and many others. In August 1996 the San Jose Mercury News published Webb’s “Dark Alliance”, a 20,000 word, three-part investigative series which alleged that Nicaraguan drug traffickers had sold and distributed crack cocaine in Los Angeles during the 1980s, and that drug profits were used to fund the CIA-supported Nicaraguan Contras. Webb never asserted that the CIA directly aided drug dealers to raise money for the Contras, but he did document that the CIA was aware of the cocaine transactions and the large shipments of cocaine into the U.S. by the Contra personnel. “Dark Alliance” received national attention. At the height of the interest, the web version of it on San Jose Mercury News website received 1.3 million hits a day. According to the Columbia Journalism Review, the series became “the most talked-about piece of journalism in 1996 and arguably the most famous—some would say infamous—set of articles of the decade.”

    (15) Gulf of Tonkin Never Happened: The Gulf of Tonkin Incident is the name given to two separate incidents involving the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the United States in the waters of the Gulf of Tonkin. On August 2, 1964 two American destroyers engaged three North Vietnamese torpedo boats, resulting in the sinking of one of the torpedo boats. This was also the single most important reason for the escalation of the Vietnam War. After Kennedy was assassinated, the Gulf of Tonkin gave the country the sweeping support for aggressive military action against the North Vietnamese. The outcome of the incident was the passage by Congress of the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, which granted President Lyndon B. Johnson the authority to assist any Southeast Asian country whose government was considered to be jeopardized by “communist aggression”. In 2005, an internal National Security Agency historical study was declassified; it concluded that USS Maddox had engaged the North Vietnamese on August 2, but that there may not have been any North Vietnamese vessels present during the engagement of August 4. The report stated “It is not simply that there is a different story as to what happened; it is that no attack happened that night…” In truth, Hanoi’s navy was engaged in nothing that night but the salvage of two of the boats damaged on August 2. In 1965, President Johnson commented privately: “For all I know, our Navy was shooting at whales out there.” In 1981, Captain Herrick and journalist Robert Scheer re-examined Herrick’s ship’s log and determined that the first torpedo report from August 4, which Herrick had maintained had occurred—the “apparent ambush”—was in fact unfounded. In 1995, retired Vietnamese Defense Minister Vo Nguyen Giap, meeting with former Secretary of Defense McNamara, categorically denied that Vietnamese gunboats had attacked American destroyers on August 4, while admitting to the attack on August 2. In the Fall of 1999, retired senior CIA engineering executive S. Eugene Poteat wrote that he was asked in early August 1964 to determine if the radar operator’s report showed a real torpedo boat attack or an imagined one. In October, 2005 the New York Times reported that Robert J. Hanyok, a historian for the U.S. National Security Agency, had concluded that the NSA deliberately distorted the intelligence reports that it had passed on to policy-makers regarding the August 4, 1964 incident. He concluded that the motive was not political but was probably to cover up honest intelligence errors.

    (16) The Business Plot: In 1933, group of wealthy businessmen that allegedly included the heads of Chase Bank, GM, Goodyear, Standard Oil, the DuPont family and Senator Prescott Bush tried to recruit Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler to lead a military coup against President FDR and install a fascist dictatorship in the United States. And yes, we’re talking about the same Prescott Bush who fathered one US President and grandfathered another one. Smedley Butler was both a patriot and a vocal FDR supporter. Apparently none of these criminal masterminds noticed that their prospective point man had actively stumped for FDR in 1932. Smedley spilled the beans to a congressional committee in 1934. Everyone he accused of being a conspirator vehemently denied it, and none of them were brought up on criminal charges. Still, the House McCormack-Dickstein Committee did at least acknowledge the existence of the conspiracy, which ended up never getting past the initial planning stages. Though many of the people who had allegedly backed the Business Plot also maintained financial ties with Nazi Germany up through America’s entry into World War II. In 1934, the Business Plot was publicly revealed by retired Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler testifying to the McCormack-Dickstein Congressional Committee. In his testimony, Butler claimed that a group of men had approached him as part of a plot to overthrow Roosevelt in a military coup. One of the alleged plotters, Gerald MacGuire, vehemently denied any such plot. In their final report, the Congressional committee supported Butler’s allegations of the existence of the plot, but no prosecutions or further investigations followed, and the matter was mostly forgotten.

    On July 17, 1932, thousands of World War I veterans converged on Washington, D.C., set up tent camps, and demanded immediate payment of bonuses due them according to the Adjusted Service Certificate Law of 1924. This “Bonus Army” was led by Walter W. Waters, a former Army sergeant. The Army was encouraged by an appearance from retired Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler, who had considerable influence over the veterans, being one of the most popular military figures of the time. A few days after Butler’s arrival, President Herbert Hoover ordered the marchers removed, and their camps were destroyed by US Army cavalry troops under the command of General Douglas MacArthur. Butler, although a self-described Republican, responded by supporting Roosevelt in that year’s election. In a 1995 History Today article Clayton Cramer argued that the devastation of the Great Depression had caused many Americans to question the foundations of liberal democracy. “Many traditionalists, here and in Europe, toyed with the ideas of Fascism and National Socialism; many liberals dallied with Socialism and Communism.” Cramer argues that this explains why some American business leaders viewed fascism as a viable system to both preserve their interests and end the economic woes of the Depression.

    (17) Operation Gladio: Gladio is a code name denoting the clandestine NATO “stay-behind” operation in Italy after World War II, intended to continue anti-communist resistance in the event of a Warsaw Pact invasion of Western Europe. Although Gladio specifically refers to the Italian branch of the NATO stay-behind organizations, “Operation Gladio” is used as an informal name for all stay-behind organizations, sometimes called “Super NATO”. The role of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in sponsoring Gladio and the extent of its activities during the Cold War era, and its relationship to right-wing terrorist attacks perpetrated in Italy during the Years of Lead and other similar clandestine operations is the subject of ongoing debate and investigation. Italy, Switzerland and Belgium have had parliamentary inquiries into the matter. What can we prove about that role? Thousands of documents, depositions and testimony as well as recorded conversations and admission by the highest levels of government in Italy. That’s about as credible as it gets, regardless of the CIA’s adamant denial it ever happened. What took place? The shooting of innocent civilians, terrorism and assassinations all blamed on leftist communists were actually apart of well coordinated, “black operations.” Black operations are typically involving activities that are highly clandestine and, often, outside of standard military protocol.

    (18) The CIA Assassinates A Lot Of People (Church Committee): The Church Committee is the common term referring to the United States Senate Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities, a U.S. Senate committee chaired by Senator Frank Church in 1975. A precursor to the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, the committee investigated intelligence gathering for illegality by the CIA and FBI after certain activities had been revealed by the Watergate affair. The Committee uncovered, among many other things, that the CIA had violated its charter to perform only gathering of intelligence. For example, the assassinations of Allende in Chile and Mossadegh in Iran. Assassinations against Central and South American leaders and revolutionaries, as well as Africa, Middle East and East Asia. The list was tremendous. They even declassified a “Heart Attack Gun” the Agency had made for the use of killing someone without it being detected. Cancer, car accidents, skiing accidents, suicide, boating accidents, heart attacks, and just plain being shot were common assassination methods. The hearings, although recorded in full in congressional record, the mainstream media and official policies, is still largely not taught in American schools on recent history. The American public still has no idea this was ever actually confirmed or even took place. It is common for people to still refer to any of these assassinations as a joke or made up conspiracy.

    (19) 1919 World Series Conspiracy: The 1919 World Series (often referred to as the Black Sox Scandal) resulted in the most famous scandal in baseball history. Eight players from the Chicago White Sox (nicknamed the Black Sox) were accused of throwing the series against the Cincinnati Reds. Details of the scandal remain controversial, and the extent to which each player was involved varied. It was, however, front-page news across the country when the story was uncovered late in the 1920 season, and despite being acquitted of criminal charges (throwing baseball games was technically not a crime), the eight players were banned from organized baseball (i.e. the leagues subject to the National Agreement) for life. There are hundreds of other conspiracies involving throwing games, sporting matches and large scale entertainment events. It is common knowledge for many, this list would have to go into the thousands if we included all of them.

    (20) CIA Drug Smuggling in Arkansas: August 23, 1987, in a rural community just south of Little Rock, police officers murdered two teenage boys because they witnessed a police-protected drug drop. The drop was part of a drug smuggling operation based at a small airport in Mena, Arkansas. The Mena operation was set up in the early 1980′s by the notorious drug smuggler, Barry Seal. Facing prison after a drug conviction in Florida, Seal flew to Washington, D.C., where he put together a deal that allowed him to avoid prison by becoming an informant for the government. As a government informant against drug smugglers, Seal testified he worked for the CIA and the DEA. In one federal court case, he testified that his income from March 1984 to August 1985, was between $700,000 and $800,000. This period was AFTER making his deal with the government. Seal testified that nearly $600,000 of this came from smuggling drugs while working for — and with the permission of the DEA. In addition to his duties as an informant, Seal was used by CIA operatives to help finance the Nicaraguan Contras. The CIA connection to the Mena operation was undeniable when a cargo plane given to Seal by the CIA was shot down over Nicaragua with a load of weapons. In spite of the evidence, every investigator who has tried to expose the crimes of Mena has been professionally destroyed, and those involved in drug smuggling operations have received continued protection from state and federal authorities.

    (21) Bohemian Grove: For years, many conspiracy theorists were saying that the rich and powerful met every year in the woods and worshiped a giant stone owl in an occult fashion. It turns out, ABC, CBS, NBC, and many other credible news agencies investigated this and found out, its true. It is said to be just all fun and games, like brotherhood style fraternity stuff.

    (22) Operation Paperclip: Operation Paperclip was the code name for the 1945 Office of Strategic Services, Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency recruitment of German scientists from Nazi Germany to the U.S. after VE Day. President Truman authorized Operation Paperclip in August 1945; however he expressly ordered that anyone found “to have been a member of the Nazi party and more than a nominal participant in its activities, or an active supporter of Nazi militarism” would be excluded. These included Wernher von Braun, Arthur Rudolph and Hubertus Strughold, who were all officially on record as Nazis and listed as a “menace to the security of the Allied Forces.” All were cleared to work in the U.S. after having their backgrounds “bleached” by the military; false employment histories were provided, and their previous Nazi affiliations were expunged from the record. The paperclips that secured newly-minted background details to their personnel files gave the operation its name.
    Ok, but America would never do anything questionable in secret, TODAY.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren84 View Post
    They could be having a giant collective [email protected] for all I care. Bilderberg is a private meeting and under no obligation to tell anyone what they get up to.
    You're dead right. There's no reason in the world why anyone would want to know why their elected representatives are meeting with major business interests with agendas and minutes of meetings kept secret. In reality it's a 'private meeting' attended by some of the leading politicians of our democracies where the public is kept in the dark.

    CURRENT LIST OF PARTICIPANTS – STATUS 26 MAY 2014

    Chairman
    FRA Castries, Henri de Chairman and CEO, AXA Group

    DEU Achleitner, Paul M. Chairman of the Supervisory Board, Deutsche Bank AG
    DEU Ackermann, Josef Former CEO, Deutsche Bank AG
    GBR Agius, Marcus Non-Executive Chairman, PA Consulting Group
    FIN Alahuhta, Matti Member of the Board, KONE; Chairman, Aalto University Foundation
    GBR Alexander, Helen Chairman, UBM plc
    USA Alexander, Keith B. Former Commander, U.S. Cyber Command; Former Director, National Security Agency
    USA Altman, Roger C. Executive Chairman, Evercore
    FIN Apunen, Matti Director, Finnish Business and Policy Forum EVA
    DEU Asmussen, Jörg State Secretary of Labour and Social Affairs
    HUN Bajnai, Gordon Former Prime Minister; Party Leader, Together 2014
    GBR Balls, Edward M. Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer
    PRT Balsemão, Francisco Pinto Chairman, Impresa SGPS
    FRA Baroin, François Member of Parliament (UMP); Mayor of Troyes
    FRA Baverez, Nicolas Partner, Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP
    USA Berggruen, Nicolas Chairman, Berggruen Institute on Governance
    ITA Bernabè, Franco Chairman, FB Group SRL
    DNK Besenbacher, Flemming Chairman, The Carlsberg Group
    NLD Beurden, Ben van CEO, Royal Dutch Shell plc
    SWE Bildt, Carl Minister for Foreign Affairs
    NOR Brandtzæg, Svein Richard President and CEO, Norsk Hydro ASA
    INT Breedlove, Philip M. Supreme Allied Commander Europe
    AUT Bronner, Oscar Publisher, Der STANDARD Verlagsgesellschaft m.b.H.
    SWE Buskhe, Håkan President and CEO, Saab AB
    TUR Çandar, Cengiz Senior Columnist, Al Monitor and Radikal
    ESP Cebrián, Juan Luis Executive Chairman, Grupo PRISA
    FRA Chalendar, Pierre-André de Chairman and CEO, Saint-Gobain
    CAN Clark, W. Edmund Group President and CEO, TD Bank Group
    INT Coeuré, Benoît Member of the Executive Board, European Central Bank
    IRL Coveney, Simon Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine
    GBR Cowper-Coles, Sherard Senior Adviser to the Group Chairman and Group CEO, HSBC Holdings plc
    BEL Davignon, Etienne Minister of State
    USA Donilon, Thomas E. Senior Partner, O’Melveny and Myers; Former U.S. National Security Advisor
    DEU Döpfner, Mathias CEO, Axel Springer SE
    GBR Dudley, Robert Group Chief Executive, BP plc
    FIN Ehrnrooth, Henrik Chairman, Caverion Corporation, Otava and Pöyry PLC
    ITA Elkann, John Chairman, Fiat S.p.A.
    DEU Enders, Thomas CEO, Airbus Group
    DNK Federspiel, Ulrik Executive Vice President, Haldor Topsøe A/S
    USA Feldstein, Martin S. Professor of Economics, Harvard University; President Emeritus, NBER
    CAN Ferguson, Brian President and CEO, Cenovus Energy Inc.
    GBR Flint, Douglas J. Group Chairman, HSBC Holdings plc
    ESP García-Margallo, José Manuel Minister of Foreign Affairs and Cooperation
    USA Gfoeller, Michael Independent Consultant
    TUR Göle, Nilüfer Professor of Sociology, École des Hautes Études en Sciences Sociales
    USA Greenberg, Evan G. Chairman and CEO, ACE Group
    GBR Greening, Justine Secretary of State for International Development
    NLD Halberstadt, Victor Professor of Economics, Leiden University
    USA Hockfield, Susan President Emerita, Massachusetts Institute of Technology
    NOR Høegh, Leif O. Chairman, Höegh Autoliners AS
    NOR Høegh, Westye Senior Advisor, Höegh Autoliners AS
    USA Hoffman, Reid Co-Founder and Executive Chairman, LinkedIn
    CHN Huang, Yiping Professor of Economics, National School of Development, Peking University
    USA Jackson, Shirley Ann President, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
    USA Jacobs, Kenneth M. Chairman and CEO, Lazard
    USA Johnson, James A. Chairman, Johnson Capital Partners
    USA Karp, Alex CEO, Palantir Technologies
    USA Katz, Bruce J. Vice President and Co-Director, Metropolitan Policy Program, The Brookings Institution
    CAN Kenney, Jason T. Minister of Employment and Social Development
    GBR Kerr, John Deputy Chairman, Scottish Power
    USA Kissinger, Henry A. Chairman, Kissinger Associates, Inc.
    USA Kleinfeld, Klaus Chairman and CEO, Alcoa
    TUR Koç, Mustafa Chairman, Koç Holding A.S.
    DNK Kragh, Steffen President and CEO, Egmont
    USA Kravis, Henry R. Co-Chairman and Co-CEO, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co.
    USA Kravis, Marie-Josée Senior Fellow and Vice Chair, Hudson Institute
    CHE Kudelski, André Chairman and CEO, Kudelski Group
    INT Lagarde, Christine Managing Director, International Monetary Fund
    BEL Leysen, Thomas Chairman of the Board of Directors, KBC Group
    USA Li, Cheng Director, John L.Thornton China Center,The Brookings Institution
    SWE Lifvendahl, Tove Political Editor in Chief, Svenska Dagbladet
    CHN Liu, He Minister, Office of the Central Leading Group on Financial and Economic Affairs
    PRT Macedo, Paulo Minister of Health
    FRA Macron, Emmanuel Deputy Secretary General of the Presidency
    ITA Maggioni, Monica Editor-in-Chief, Rainews24, RAI TV
    GBR Mandelson, Peter Chairman, Global Counsel LLP
    USA McAfee, Andrew Principal Research Scientist, Massachusetts Institute of Technology
    PRT Medeiros, Inês de Member of Parliament, Socialist Party
    GBR Micklethwait, John Editor-in-Chief, The Economist
    GRC Mitsotaki, Alexandra Chair, ActionAid Hellas
    ITA Monti, Mario Senator-for-life; President, Bocconi University
    USA Mundie, Craig J. Senior Advisor to the CEO, Microsoft Corporation
    CAN Munroe-Blum, Heather Professor of Medicine and Principal (President) Emerita, McGill University
    USA Murray, Charles A. W.H. Brady Scholar, American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research
    NLD Netherlands, H.R.H. Princess Beatrix of the
    ESP Nin Génova, Juan María Deputy Chairman and CEO, CaixaBank
    FRA Nougayrède, Natalie Director and Executive Editor, Le Monde
    DNK Olesen, Søren-Peter Professor; Member of the Board of Directors, The Carlsberg Foundation
    FIN Ollila, Jorma Chairman, Royal Dutch Shell, plc; Chairman, Outokumpu Plc
    TUR Oran, Umut Deputy Chairman, Republican People’s Party (CHP)
    GBR Osborne, George Chancellor of the Exchequer
    FRA Pellerin, Fleur State Secretary for Foreign Trade
    USA Perle, Richard N. Resident Fellow, American Enterprise Institute
    USA Petraeus, David H. Chairman, KKR Global Institute
    CAN Poloz, Stephen S. Governor, Bank of Canada
    INT Rasmussen, Anders Fogh Secretary General, NATO
    DNK Rasmussen, Jørgen Huno Chairman of the Board of Trustees, The Lundbeck Foundation
    INT Reding, Viviane Vice President and Commissioner for Justice, Fundamental Rights and Citizenship, European Commission
    USA Reed, Kasim Mayor of Atlanta
    CAN Reisman, Heather M. Chair and CEO, Indigo Books & Music Inc.
    NOR Reiten, Eivind Chairman, Klaveness Marine Holding AS
    DEU Röttgen, Norbert Chairman, Foreign Affairs Committee, German Bundestag
    USA Rubin, Robert E. Co-Chair, Council on Foreign Relations; Former Secretary of the Treasury
    USA Rumer, Eugene Senior Associate and Director, Russia and Eurasia Program, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
    NOR Rynning-Tønnesen, Christian President and CEO, Statkraft AS
    NLD Samsom, Diederik M. Parliamentary Leader PvdA (Labour Party)
    GBR Sawers, John Chief, Secret Intelligence Service
    NLD Scheffer, Paul J. Author; Professor of European Studies, Tilburg University
    NLD Schippers, Edith Minister of Health, Welfare and Sport
    USA Schmidt, Eric E. Executive Chairman, Google Inc.
    AUT Scholten, Rudolf CEO, Oesterreichische Kontrollbank AG
    USA Shih, Clara CEO and Founder, Hearsay Social
    FIN Siilasmaa, Risto K. Chairman of the Board of Directors and Interim CEO, Nokia Corporation
    ESP Spain, H.M. the Queen of
    USA Spence, A. Michael Professor of Economics, New York University
    FIN Stadigh, Kari President and CEO, Sampo plc
    USA Summers, Lawrence H. Charles W. Eliot University Professor, Harvard University
    IRL Sutherland, Peter D. Chairman, Goldman Sachs International; UN Special Representative for Migration
    SWE Svanberg, Carl-Henric Chairman, Volvo AB and BP plc
    TUR Taftali, A. Ümit Member of the Board, Suna and Inan Kiraç Foundation
    USA Thiel, Peter A. President, Thiel Capital
    DNK Topsøe, Henrik Chairman, Haldor Topsøe A/S
    GRC Tsoukalis, Loukas President, Hellenic Foundation for European and Foreign Policy
    NOR Ulltveit-Moe, Jens Founder and CEO, Umoe AS
    INT Üzümcü, Ahmet Director-General, Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons
    CHE Vasella, Daniel L. Honorary Chairman, Novartis International
    FIN Wahlroos, Björn Chairman, Sampo plc
    SWE Wallenberg, Jacob Chairman, Investor AB
    SWE Wallenberg, Marcus Chairman of the Board of Directors, Skandinaviska Enskilda Banken AB
    USA Warsh, Kevin M. Distinguished Visiting Fellow and Lecturer, Stanford University
    GBR Wolf, Martin H. Chief Economics Commentator, The Financial Times
    USA Wolfensohn, James D. Chairman and CEO, Wolfensohn and Company
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    Quote Originally Posted by eoghanacht View Post
    There was a time when the 'rumours' that Saville was an aggressive sexual predator was considered conspiracy theory.

    Of course there was also the 'rumour' that he operated a ring that involved senior political figures and royals.

    I doubt the royal(s) would ever be named. But of those three rumours two have been found to have a basis in fact.

    RUMOUR


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      a currently circulating story or report of uncertain or doubtful truth.




    CONSPIRACY THEORY


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    a belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for an unexplained event.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niall78 View Post
    You're dead right. There's no reason in the world why anyone would want to know why their elected representatives are meeting with major business interests with agendas and minutes of meetings kept secret. In reality it's a 'private meeting' attended by some of the leading politicians of our democracies where the public is kept in the dark.

    CURRENT LIST OF PARTICIPANTS – STATUS 26 MAY 2014

    Chairman
    FRA Castries, Henri de Chairman and CEO, AXA Group

    DEU Achleitner, Paul M. Chairman of the Supervisory Board, Deutsche Bank AG
    DEU Ackermann, Josef Former CEO, Deutsche Bank AG
    GBR Agius, Marcus Non-Executive Chairman, PA Consulting Group
    FIN Alahuhta, Matti Member of the Board, KONE; Chairman, Aalto University Foundation
    GBR Alexander, Helen Chairman, UBM plc
    USA Alexander, Keith B. Former Commander, U.S. Cyber Command; Former Director, National Security Agency
    USA Altman, Roger C. Executive Chairman, Evercore
    FIN Apunen, Matti Director, Finnish Business and Policy Forum EVA
    DEU Asmussen, Jörg State Secretary of Labour and Social Affairs
    HUN Bajnai, Gordon Former Prime Minister; Party Leader, Together 2014
    GBR Balls, Edward M. Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer
    PRT Balsemão, Francisco Pinto Chairman, Impresa SGPS
    FRA Baroin, François Member of Parliament (UMP); Mayor of Troyes
    FRA Baverez, Nicolas Partner, Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP
    USA Berggruen, Nicolas Chairman, Berggruen Institute on Governance
    ITA Bernabè, Franco Chairman, FB Group SRL
    DNK Besenbacher, Flemming Chairman, The Carlsberg Group
    NLD Beurden, Ben van CEO, Royal Dutch Shell plc
    SWE Bildt, Carl Minister for Foreign Affairs
    NOR Brandtzæg, Svein Richard President and CEO, Norsk Hydro ASA
    INT Breedlove, Philip M. Supreme Allied Commander Europe
    AUT Bronner, Oscar Publisher, Der STANDARD Verlagsgesellschaft m.b.H.
    SWE Buskhe, Håkan President and CEO, Saab AB
    TUR Çandar, Cengiz Senior Columnist, Al Monitor and Radikal
    ESP Cebrián, Juan Luis Executive Chairman, Grupo PRISA
    FRA Chalendar, Pierre-André de Chairman and CEO, Saint-Gobain
    CAN Clark, W. Edmund Group President and CEO, TD Bank Group
    INT Coeuré, Benoît Member of the Executive Board, European Central Bank
    IRL Coveney, Simon Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine
    GBR Cowper-Coles, Sherard Senior Adviser to the Group Chairman and Group CEO, HSBC Holdings plc
    BEL Davignon, Etienne Minister of State
    USA Donilon, Thomas E. Senior Partner, O’Melveny and Myers; Former U.S. National Security Advisor
    DEU Döpfner, Mathias CEO, Axel Springer SE
    GBR Dudley, Robert Group Chief Executive, BP plc
    FIN Ehrnrooth, Henrik Chairman, Caverion Corporation, Otava and Pöyry PLC
    ITA Elkann, John Chairman, Fiat S.p.A.
    DEU Enders, Thomas CEO, Airbus Group
    DNK Federspiel, Ulrik Executive Vice President, Haldor Topsøe A/S
    USA Feldstein, Martin S. Professor of Economics, Harvard University; President Emeritus, NBER
    CAN Ferguson, Brian President and CEO, Cenovus Energy Inc.
    GBR Flint, Douglas J. Group Chairman, HSBC Holdings plc
    ESP García-Margallo, José Manuel Minister of Foreign Affairs and Cooperation
    USA Gfoeller, Michael Independent Consultant
    TUR Göle, Nilüfer Professor of Sociology, École des Hautes Études en Sciences Sociales
    USA Greenberg, Evan G. Chairman and CEO, ACE Group
    GBR Greening, Justine Secretary of State for International Development
    NLD Halberstadt, Victor Professor of Economics, Leiden University
    USA Hockfield, Susan President Emerita, Massachusetts Institute of Technology
    NOR Høegh, Leif O. Chairman, Höegh Autoliners AS
    NOR Høegh, Westye Senior Advisor, Höegh Autoliners AS
    USA Hoffman, Reid Co-Founder and Executive Chairman, LinkedIn
    CHN Huang, Yiping Professor of Economics, National School of Development, Peking University
    USA Jackson, Shirley Ann President, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
    USA Jacobs, Kenneth M. Chairman and CEO, Lazard
    USA Johnson, James A. Chairman, Johnson Capital Partners
    USA Karp, Alex CEO, Palantir Technologies
    USA Katz, Bruce J. Vice President and Co-Director, Metropolitan Policy Program, The Brookings Institution
    CAN Kenney, Jason T. Minister of Employment and Social Development
    GBR Kerr, John Deputy Chairman, Scottish Power
    USA Kissinger, Henry A. Chairman, Kissinger Associates, Inc.
    USA Kleinfeld, Klaus Chairman and CEO, Alcoa
    TUR Koç, Mustafa Chairman, Koç Holding A.S.
    DNK Kragh, Steffen President and CEO, Egmont
    USA Kravis, Henry R. Co-Chairman and Co-CEO, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co.
    USA Kravis, Marie-Josée Senior Fellow and Vice Chair, Hudson Institute
    CHE Kudelski, André Chairman and CEO, Kudelski Group
    INT Lagarde, Christine Managing Director, International Monetary Fund
    BEL Leysen, Thomas Chairman of the Board of Directors, KBC Group
    USA Li, Cheng Director, John L.Thornton China Center,The Brookings Institution
    SWE Lifvendahl, Tove Political Editor in Chief, Svenska Dagbladet
    CHN Liu, He Minister, Office of the Central Leading Group on Financial and Economic Affairs
    PRT Macedo, Paulo Minister of Health
    FRA Macron, Emmanuel Deputy Secretary General of the Presidency
    ITA Maggioni, Monica Editor-in-Chief, Rainews24, RAI TV
    GBR Mandelson, Peter Chairman, Global Counsel LLP
    USA McAfee, Andrew Principal Research Scientist, Massachusetts Institute of Technology
    PRT Medeiros, Inês de Member of Parliament, Socialist Party
    GBR Micklethwait, John Editor-in-Chief, The Economist
    GRC Mitsotaki, Alexandra Chair, ActionAid Hellas
    ITA Monti, Mario Senator-for-life; President, Bocconi University
    USA Mundie, Craig J. Senior Advisor to the CEO, Microsoft Corporation
    CAN Munroe-Blum, Heather Professor of Medicine and Principal (President) Emerita, McGill University
    USA Murray, Charles A. W.H. Brady Scholar, American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research
    NLD Netherlands, H.R.H. Princess Beatrix of the
    ESP Nin Génova, Juan María Deputy Chairman and CEO, CaixaBank
    FRA Nougayrède, Natalie Director and Executive Editor, Le Monde
    DNK Olesen, Søren-Peter Professor; Member of the Board of Directors, The Carlsberg Foundation
    FIN Ollila, Jorma Chairman, Royal Dutch Shell, plc; Chairman, Outokumpu Plc
    TUR Oran, Umut Deputy Chairman, Republican People’s Party (CHP)
    GBR Osborne, George Chancellor of the Exchequer
    FRA Pellerin, Fleur State Secretary for Foreign Trade
    USA Perle, Richard N. Resident Fellow, American Enterprise Institute
    USA Petraeus, David H. Chairman, KKR Global Institute
    CAN Poloz, Stephen S. Governor, Bank of Canada
    INT Rasmussen, Anders Fogh Secretary General, NATO
    DNK Rasmussen, Jørgen Huno Chairman of the Board of Trustees, The Lundbeck Foundation
    INT Reding, Viviane Vice President and Commissioner for Justice, Fundamental Rights and Citizenship, European Commission
    USA Reed, Kasim Mayor of Atlanta
    CAN Reisman, Heather M. Chair and CEO, Indigo Books & Music Inc.
    NOR Reiten, Eivind Chairman, Klaveness Marine Holding AS
    DEU Röttgen, Norbert Chairman, Foreign Affairs Committee, German Bundestag
    USA Rubin, Robert E. Co-Chair, Council on Foreign Relations; Former Secretary of the Treasury
    USA Rumer, Eugene Senior Associate and Director, Russia and Eurasia Program, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
    NOR Rynning-Tønnesen, Christian President and CEO, Statkraft AS
    NLD Samsom, Diederik M. Parliamentary Leader PvdA (Labour Party)
    GBR Sawers, John Chief, Secret Intelligence Service
    NLD Scheffer, Paul J. Author; Professor of European Studies, Tilburg University
    NLD Schippers, Edith Minister of Health, Welfare and Sport
    USA Schmidt, Eric E. Executive Chairman, Google Inc.
    AUT Scholten, Rudolf CEO, Oesterreichische Kontrollbank AG
    USA Shih, Clara CEO and Founder, Hearsay Social
    FIN Siilasmaa, Risto K. Chairman of the Board of Directors and Interim CEO, Nokia Corporation
    ESP Spain, H.M. the Queen of
    USA Spence, A. Michael Professor of Economics, New York University
    FIN Stadigh, Kari President and CEO, Sampo plc
    USA Summers, Lawrence H. Charles W. Eliot University Professor, Harvard University
    IRL Sutherland, Peter D. Chairman, Goldman Sachs International; UN Special Representative for Migration
    SWE Svanberg, Carl-Henric Chairman, Volvo AB and BP plc
    TUR Taftali, A. Ümit Member of the Board, Suna and Inan Kiraç Foundation
    USA Thiel, Peter A. President, Thiel Capital
    DNK Topsøe, Henrik Chairman, Haldor Topsøe A/S
    GRC Tsoukalis, Loukas President, Hellenic Foundation for European and Foreign Policy
    NOR Ulltveit-Moe, Jens Founder and CEO, Umoe AS
    INT Üzümcü, Ahmet Director-General, Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons
    CHE Vasella, Daniel L. Honorary Chairman, Novartis International
    FIN Wahlroos, Björn Chairman, Sampo plc
    SWE Wallenberg, Jacob Chairman, Investor AB
    SWE Wallenberg, Marcus Chairman of the Board of Directors, Skandinaviska Enskilda Banken AB
    USA Warsh, Kevin M. Distinguished Visiting Fellow and Lecturer, Stanford University
    GBR Wolf, Martin H. Chief Economics Commentator, The Financial Times
    USA Wolfensohn, James D. Chairman and CEO, Wolfensohn and Company
    NLD Zalm, Gerrit Chairman of the Managing Board, ABN-AMRO Bank N.V.
    GRC Zanias, George Chairman of the Board, National Bank of Greece
    USA Zoellick, Robert B. Chairman, Board of International Advisors, The Goldman Sachs Group
    I fully accept that there are conspiracies and that there have been many, many conspiracies in the past that have had major effects on the political landscape.
    Every war, peace, business deal, merger, secret birthday party, election and b1tching session is either a conspiracy or a multiple of conspiracies, we are human, we conspire.
    I am talking about the idiotic conspiracy theories foisted on us by charlatans like Alex Jones and his ilk, the climate change deniers, the protocols of Zion and other such "conspiracies" they are extremely dangerous in and of themselves but when you add to that the effect of all these people crying wolf, it may mean we miss the real thing when it does happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niall78 View Post
    You're dead right. There's no reason in the world why anyone would want to know why their elected representatives are meeting with major business interests with agendas and minutes of meetings kept secret. In reality it's a 'private meeting' attended by some of the leading politicians of our democracies where the public is kept in the dark. p
    Look. That group counts Shirley Williams in its ranks. Any group that has Shirley Williams in it ranks is more likely to bore the tits off you than take over the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EUrJokingMeRight View Post
    Ok, but America would never do anything questionable in secret, TODAY.
    It's only a handful of examples of major events judged to be conspiracy theories that proved to be true when there are countless of examples of conspiracies brought into the open. There are millions of conspiracies on the go right now around the world. Everything from simple fraud and price fixing conspiracies involving chump-change though to high level political conspiracies in dozens of countries.

    Stupid talk of grassy knolls, chem-trails and UFOs doesn't change the fact that conspiracies at every level are as common as muck. A true democratic citizen should always be questioning of all information received. We in this country should know that fact better than most - we've been dealing with conspiracies and their fallouts for decades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by typhoid View Post
    This drives me mad. I agree that Russian and Chinese restrictions when they arrive, which they will, may appear more rigorous and blatant than other state's. However, the myth that the western states aren't or won't be restrictive does my head in. Here's a recent example of Obama's (and indeed the presidents that preceded him) tolerance of criticism:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/17/op...tice.html?_r=0

    It's clear you've never visited and have no real understanding of life in China. They don't 'appear' more restrictive. They are off the scale more restrictive compared to the west. When the west surveil the explicit sanction for it is the protection of civilians. When China does it, the explicit sanction is to protect the government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prester Jim View Post
    I fully accept that there are conspiracies and that there have been many, many conspiracies in the past that have had major effects on the political landscape.
    Every war, peace, business deal, merger, secret birthday party, election and b1tching session is either a conspiracy or a multiple of conspiracies, we are human, we conspire.
    I am talking about the idiotic conspiracy theories foisted on us by charlatans like Alex Jones and his ilk, the climate change deniers, the protocols of Zion and other such "conspiracies" they are extremely dangerous in and of themselves but when you add to that the effect of all these people crying wolf, it may mean we miss the real thing when it does happen.
    I agree that the 'out there' conspiracy theories are extremely dangerous to credulous lazy people. Cursory examination of most reveal them to be silly in the extreme. But if you get enough credulous lazy people you end up with the crazy situation - like the murder of JFK by Oswald - where the very facts of history can be twisted to make a majority of people effectively believe lies. Thankfully such cases are few and far between.

    In reality it isn't the internet that gains these conspiracies a following. On the internet these the pedallers of bullsh1t are in a small community circle-jerk. It's the main stream cable channels that gain them a following by exposing millions of credulous lazy people to quack history and quack science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drummed View Post
    Holocaust denial is a whole industry which has blossomed online. I think the OP has a good point re profit. These sort of nutters are always selling something but that fact is missed by the anti-capitalist squad who adore them so much.

    Check out the infowars store

    Welcome to the ALEX JONES INFOWARS STORE
    We're all vulnerable, Drummed.

    You continue to insist your Opel Vectra is not an Opel Vectra because someone stick little "Saab" badges on it, for example.
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